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    Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:45
Well maybe not new to prog.  I've been around fusion my entire life, and I've loved Mr. Bungle for years, but other than that I've heard no prog except for Roundabout on the radio.  I'm 16 years old, and I really want to get into this sophisticated realm of audio.  Like I said, I really dig fusion, but I also really dig symphonic stuff as long as there's a lot of great playing added.  I like things that are different but I like things with a nasty groove, great melody and tight playing.  Also, I've been a drummer almost my entire life, and great drumming is something that gets me everytime!  And hell, I just love great music in general, but I do have specifics like I mentioned.  Can some of you get me started based off of my likes?  I'll chronicle my prog adventures to come here.  I can probably get a hold of any album right away and I'll tell you what I think.

So here's a fresh new progger, destroy my mind or enrich it!  Or both!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 14:57

For some reason i think you will like Magma's Mekanik Destruktiw Commandoh.

 

I think it's fusion meets Yes's CTTE

I believe there's a download available on the archive.

 

Don't know much fusion, so can't help you there Miles Davis is good (is that fusion?)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 15:06
Magma eh?  Well that's definitely an interesting album name, I'll have to check that out.  What language is that album name?  I don't know what Yes' CTTE is... and Miles Davis is the man yeah, it's fusion, post-bop.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 15:10
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

For some reason i think you will like Magma's Mekanik Destruktiw Commandoh.

 

I think it's fusion meets Yes's CTTE

I believe there's a download available on the archive.



Seconded. Also try:

5uu's - Hunger's Teeth
After Crying - Megalázottak és Megszomorítottak
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
Captain Beefheart - Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller)
Gentle Giant - In a Glass House and Free Hand
Henry Cow - Unrest
Samla Mammas Manna - Maltid

That's a few very varied albums to get your musical tastebuds going that all ought to be to your liking!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 15:11
Originally posted by Retrovertigo Retrovertigo wrote:

Magma eh?  Well that's definitely an interesting album name, I'll have to check that out.  What language is that album name?  I don't know what Yes' CTTE is... and Miles Davis is the man yeah, it's fusion, post-bop.

Thanks tuxon.


Magma's language is... well, it's a long story!

You don't know CTTE?! CLOSE TO THE EDGE.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 15:15
Did Magma make up their own language?  If so that's sweet, are there fans that translate it?    Sorry about not knowing Close to the Edge.  The only Yes songs I've heard are Roundabout and Owner of a Lonely Heart, in which I would presume they changed dramatically throughout those 10 years or so.  Also, thanks a lot for the suggestions, I'll try to get the album and if not, sample songs from this here site if that was from the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 15:32

Magma's language is based on the sounds of slavonian and German languages. They do have some meaning, but it isn't really important. The voice plays an important roll in the sound of Magma (often operatic, with some rock mixed in), and a meaningfull lyric might distract from the intensity of the performance.

Zeuhl is the genre, named after a Magma word (Kobaian language). Zeuhl meaning "Celestial Music".

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=646

Kobaia is a great album also

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 16:23
Are you aware of the Italian band Arti E Mestieri? If you aren't I advice you to check them out. Since you are a drummer and you like fusion it should be just the right band for you. I'm not a drummer or even a musician but even I can hear that their drummer Furio Chirico is one of the greatest ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 16:29

As no one's mentioned King Crimson, I'd better do. First few albums are symphonic but with some jazzy bits in (esp. the song "21st Century Schizoid Man" from their debut). Then they go a bit more experimental. Then they go madly experimental. Something tells me I'm not explaining this very well .

For an interesting trip from fusion to (Canterbury) prog, work backwards through the Soft Machine's discography - they have an album with Holdsworth playing guitar if that interests you at all, although that one's currently out of print.

You mentioned Mr. Bungle, so I can't help but recommend Estradasphere - not as strange but definitely as diverse and they go into much more genuine sounding jazz sections, as well as strange eastern European folk bits.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2005 at 22:33
Well, thanks to Trouserpress I've thoroughly enjoyed Gentle Giant, Absolute Zero, Gong, Magma and Van der Graaf Generator, and Focus, and you have no idea...  This is among the best music I've heard.  I'm thrilled to keep going.
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