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wrax
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Topic: Two bands who might be considered "prog" Posted: June 16 2005 at 07:23 |
Blue Oyster Cult
OK, the majority of the known universe consider them to be an out and out rock band, with not much in the way of prog tendencies. However, last year they played The Brook club in Southampton, UK and the promoter (in his wisdom) described BOC on the flyer as "mystical progressive rock". Is there any justification for this? Possibly. Tracks like "Veterans of the Psychic Wars", "The Great Sun Jester" and "Black Blade" not only were co-written by Michael "Hawkwind" Moorcock but there are time signature changes all over the place. Tracks like "Seven Screaming Dizbusters", "Astronomy" and "Golden Age of Leather" have prog leanings even though they are not. Max Webster If you're going to have Rush in the archive, you really need Max Webster too. I've seen them described as Canada's only 70s prog rock band!! (I'm sure there were others). They shared a same producer as Rush (Terry Brown), recorded with Rush ("Battlescars"), toured with Rush extensively and in Kim Mitchell had a guitar player who's technique wouldn't be out of place in Gentle Giant or King Crimson. Many of their songs are definitely not rock standard fare - Oh War, In Context of the Moon, Here Among The Cats, The Party, Toronto Tontos, etc. Has anyone else considered either of these bands to be more "prog" than not? |
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Fantômas
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2005 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 1859 |
Posted: June 16 2005 at 12:57 |
And Nine Inch Nails as well, then!
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And above all, is punk
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NetsNJFan
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047 |
Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:21 |
INDUSTRIAL is a seperate genre! |
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abyssyinfinity
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 13 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 443 |
Posted: June 16 2005 at 13:48 |
Ah, Astronomy, fantastic song!
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protec
Forum Newbie Joined: June 20 2005 Status: Offline Points: 12 |
Posted: June 20 2005 at 03:03 |
I'm not so sure about BLue Oyster Cult, I don't know enough about MAx Webster to judge
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DallasBryan
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323 |
Posted: June 20 2005 at 08:53 |
NIN and Depeche Mode fit well into the evolution of
progressive rock where english progressive meets german kosmiche around 1990. One veering in from the art rock side on from the electronic side. he he ho ho ha ha! Of course I wouldnt know progressive rock if it smacked me in the head! |
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geezer
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 03 2005 Location: Cocos (Keeling) Islands Status: Offline Points: 606 |
Posted: June 20 2005 at 09:29 |
Yes, I do consider Blue Öyster Cult a little more progressive than
other seventies hard rock bands I have heard. But can it be considered
progressive rock? No.
Couldn't agree more on "Astronomy". It's one of my favourite tunes outside of progressive rock. Another my favourite BÖC tune is "Nosferatu". Ah, they had so many great songs... |
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ldlanberg
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 18 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 249 |
Posted: June 26 2005 at 22:57 |
Cultosaurus Erectus was a very fine (dare I say it?) progressive album. "Black Blade" earns a place all its own in rock music. There seems to be a misconception on this website that a "progressive" piece cannot be loud, or, have any resemblance to a bold Rock sound whatsoever. I would hope that the webmasters will remember that without Rock, there can be no Progressive Rock.
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Nipsey88
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: Kadath Status: Offline Points: 706 |
Posted: June 30 2005 at 00:59 |
BOC! BOC! BOC!
YES! They are mainly a hard rock band, but I think that there are enough progressive rock elements throughout almost all their albums that their inlclusion is highly warranted. As far as Max Webster, I am aware of the Rush connection, but unfortunately, I have never heard them. |
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glass house
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 16 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 4986 |
Posted: June 30 2005 at 03:06 |
To be added or not to be added, ................ Blue Oyster Cult is a rock band, not to be mentioned here. But you'll never know, Meshuggah is here !!!! |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20252 |
Posted: July 05 2005 at 05:27 |
M@X Webster?? Sure , he is prog!!!!! He owns the site! As for the group, it definitely enters the Art Rock category , some of their tracks are proggish, and songwriting-wise they were a beefed up 10cc or Queen level energy. Classy stuff! Certainly art rock!!! Saw them four or five times live at their height.
Shame they never got that famous. By the time they got exposition by collaborating with Rush, their best era was gone. Universal Juvenile was their worst album. Max Webster has got some real classics nonetheless Hangover High Class In Borrowed Shoes is a real classy affair with Oh War their tops. Mutiny Up My Sleeve has The Party: Awesome!!!! Played at almost every party for years in Toronto. A Million Vacation is slighly mellower but almost every track is a minor classic. The live album is not bad but by U J album, the original line-up was breaking up and Kim Mitchell went solo after that and never came to knee height of the former group.
As far as Toronto groups , Triumph made some proggish albums until Allied Forces but certainly the first three albums had real gems. Edited by Sean Trane |
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