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HeirToRuin 
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 Topic: The ConstruKction of Light
Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:21 |
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I've been listening to King Crimson's The ConstruKction of Light for the past few days.
Some of the reviews I've read on this site are quite odd. Aren't
people interested in progressive music? Maybe I'm just isolated,
but I can't think of a single thing that has such a flavor as this.
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hugo
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:25 |
have you heard their other albums........this is just their worst, it's not THAT bad though.
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Progger
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:30 |
Listening to that album is like walking into a jazz club & listening to some very competent musicians just playing their own thing. 
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:31 |
 hugo wrote:
have you heard their other albums....... |
Yeah...it's just hard for me to compare one era to the next ...
completely different points of view and evolution...anymore than I can
compare AFI with gregorian chant.
Coda: I Have A Dream just pulled me right in.
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:32 |
Progger wrote:
Listening to that album is like walking into a jazz club
& listening to some very competent musicians just playing their own
thing. |
Unfortunately, the only local jazz clubs here feature rehashed tunes...over...and over...and over...
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 12 2005 at 20:44 |
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Some of you guys are harsh. I don't understand the reviews of
ConstruKction Of Light either, pound for pound it's among my favorite
KC albums.
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Syzygy
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Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:03 |
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TCOL is very under rated, but I think there are 2 reasons for this: ProzaKc Blues (which has some interesting things going on rhythmically, to be fair) does not stand up well to repeated litening, plus the production is probably the worst of any KC studio album. For some reason it seems they wanted to sound like Tool, which was appropriate for Into The Frying Pan but on most of the other pieces a lot of the subtleties were buried. The title track, FraKctured and LTIA 4 are all up to the standard of King Crimson's best work, and with the exception of 'ProzaKc' the rest of it is more than OK.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Hangedman
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Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:47 |
Syzygy wrote:
TCOL is very under rated, but I think there are 2 reasons for this: ProzaKc Blues (which has some interesting things going on rhythmically, to be fair) does not stand up well to repeated litening, plus the production is probably the worst of any KC studio album. For some reason it seems they wanted to sound like Tool, which was appropriate for Into The Frying Pan but on most of the other pieces a lot of the subtleties were buried. The title track, FraKctured and LTIA 4 are all up to the standard of King Crimson's best work, and with the exception of 'ProzaKc' the rest of it is more than OK. |
Fripp was actually qouted to have said that it was exactly the case. I love the album personally, the title track may be the best king crimson song (imo of course)
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Hammill
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Posted: June 13 2005 at 14:48 |
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king crimson is the greatest (not the best) band of prog rock. they are
the only band that continued in the 80s, 90s and 00s and presented
great albums. they don't have a bad album. they had the balls to
modernize their sound and record great albums ( thrak, construction of
light, power to believe).
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 13 2005 at 20:46 |
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I like it as well. It is certainly not their best work, but it is very good. I rate it higher than Thrak in comparsion with modern KC albums. Deffinately a must listen to if nothing eles.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Zargus
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Posted: June 14 2005 at 06:38 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 15 2005 at 14:14 |
Dinosaur was the first KC track I ever heard. I like all their albums, but at the moment I prefer their latest album (Power To Believe). The interesting thing about KC is that there is very little consensus about which is their best, and which is their worst album. You can ask two competent people from this forum and chances are that person A's favorite is person B's least favorite, and vice versa.
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dense13
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Posted: June 17 2005 at 09:18 |
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I've also been suprised to hear so many bad reviews and comments about
TCOL. I personaly find 'Into the frying pan' a bit annoying, but I
think the rest of the album is quite amazing. Including 'ProzaKc blues'
(as Syzygy said, interesting rhythmic work), and as some have said
before, 'The construKction of light' is a truly amazing song.
In general I like 'The Power to Believe' more, but there's something
(atmosphere, 'simplicity', directness... I don't know) about 'The
construKction of light' that still strikes me everytime I listen to it.
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Balder
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Posted: June 18 2005 at 11:10 |
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I've never understood the dislike for TCOL. I agree that ProzaKc Blues gets old after a while, and I can see why some people wouldn't care for The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum, but I think that the title track, FraKctured, and Larks' Tongues in Aspic Part IV are some of the most brilliant pieces of music the band has written. The polymetric sections of the title track and Larks' Tongues Part IV give me goosebumps. I don't understand how they can write stuff like that.
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Manunkind
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Posted: June 18 2005 at 17:02 |
dense13 wrote:
I've also been suprised to hear so many bad reviews and comments about TCOL. I personaly find 'Into the frying pan' a bit annoying, but I think the rest of the album is quite amazing. Including 'ProzaKc blues' (as Syzygy said, interesting rhythmic work), and as some have said before, 'The construKction of light' is a truly amazing song.
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+1
I love the mathematical beauty of it.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Tommy
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Posted: June 19 2005 at 18:03 |
An aweful album. Mr Fripp totally lost the plot in the 80's 
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: June 22 2005 at 22:44 |
Tommy wrote:
An aweful album. Mr Fripp totally lost the plot in the 80's |
i generally agree, but its still better than 95% of the crap they come out with these days
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 19:09 |
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Into The Frying Pan is a favorite of mine... if I'm not mistaken, don't they screw around with microtones on it?
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 23 2005 at 19:15 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Tommy wrote:
An aweful album. Mr Fripp totally lost the plot in the 80's |
i generally agree, but its still better than 95% of the crap they come out with these days |
'Scuse me? The Power to Believe is NOT a bad album, in fact it's pretty
damn good. Sure, it's nothign new, but Level Five is definitely worht a
listen. TPTB pt II is also excellent...it sounds like the natural
evolution of the beginning of LTIA pt. 1
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