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Atkingani 
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 Posted: September 02 2007 at 12:30 |
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I have the same feelings, Andu, although I'm not an art expert... but now I think the important thing related to PA reviews is "what you say" and not "how you say".
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 14:00 |
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The FAQ's thread has details of the current weightings for reviews. As you'll see there, ratings without reviews now have only a marginal effect on the overall ratings.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 14:09 |
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^ doesn't that come close to deleting them? I'm not so sure what's the point of allowing people to post ratings without review when these ratings are reduced in weight so much.
BTW: Maybe this fact should be included as a hint above or below the review textarea.
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andu
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 14:13 |
 WaywardSon wrote:
I didnīt really take into account the non English speakers, that was a bit insensitive.
Sorry Andu  |
Sorry for responding too aggressive...
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Logan
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 14:31 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ doesn't that come close to deleting them? I'm not so sure what's the point of allowing people to post ratings without review when these ratings are reduced in weight so much.
BTW: Maybe this fact should be included as a hint above or below the review textarea.
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I'd echo what laplace said, in fact, I was going to write something very similar, only much more long-winded, to what he wrote earlier:
laplace wrote:
Don''t do this. ;P some of the raters I pay attention to almost never review.... |
The overall rating is not the only thing of importance to me who uses the ratings and reviews as a guide to what to get. There are raters who rarely review whose ratings I find useful since their tastes are similar to mine. I like to check out their ratings from their profiles, and also, now that the ratings without review with name can be seen, I find this function more useful. I think I said it before in a very similar thread, but I tend to find the ratings without review of some as useful (or more so) as reviews by others. Actually, I've found ratings without review often to be helpful even when I haven't been that familiar with a person's other ratings (but I do like to check the profiles to get a better general overview of people's tastes).
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 17:19 |
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Interesting point Mike. The weighting came about because of the overwhelming pressure (to the point of threatened rebellion) from the membership to do something about RwR. What do others think?
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andu
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 19:13 |
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I think that the different weighting (collab review > review > rating) is one of the best ideas this site has ever come out with.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 19:16 |
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How much more weight does a long review carry as opposed to a shorter one? For example, on Tago Mago, would a three sentence 5 star blurb carry as much weight as folly's 7000+ word 5 star behemoth? (Somewhat offtopic, but I didn't see the need to start an entirely new one to ask a tiny question.)
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 19:23 |
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Once they have more than 200 characters they have the same weight... the weight differences are those displayed at Andu's last post.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 19:25 |
Ok thanks. 
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Barla
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Posted: September 02 2007 at 19:51 |
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I'm surprised this opinion comes from a non English speaker. Put yourself in the place of a non English speaker, who wouldn't know to put his thoughts in English and who'd like to participate in this site. Ratungs without reviews is the only way for them...
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Sean Trane
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Posted: September 03 2007 at 04:16 |
Easy Livin wrote:
Interesting point Mike. The weighting came about because of the overwhelming pressure (to the point of threatened rebellion) from the membership to do something about RwR. What do others think? |
I'm all for this weighing factor, and no just because I'm a little heavier than average.
For once the weighing factor works in my favor.  
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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