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valravennz
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 02:21 |
nobody wrote:
Nipsey88 wrote:
The cover of ITCHYCOCK still ranks as the all time greatest cover that represents the music within.
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ROFLMAOAPMGU at "ITCHYCOCK" Definitely one of the 10 greatest record sleeves ever produced.
I really like the sleeve of Lizard too.
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Indeed - Yes and KC had some of the best album art around. I refer you to an example of Yes art:

Actually they both still have great art work for their album covers - though dissimilar artists producing the work
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Dr. Occulator
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 08:40 |
FYI
Yes's debut album was released during the warm heights of summer - July, 1969.
KC's In the Court was released in the cold autumn - Oct., 1969.
Season-wise it seems appropriate time for both releases.
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IcedSabbath
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 12:44 |
Great thread, and interesting thoughts.
I definitely agree. 
Both bands so different, yet loved and respected by progressive fans all over the world.
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Aaron
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 14:14 |
i guess overall, crimson is the better band if you look at the entire career, but they never wrote a song even close to as good as Gates of Delirium, Close to the Edge, or Awaken
no reason for me to mention that in this thread, but i did
Aaron
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Dr. Occulator
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 14:33 |
It would be interesting to hear Yes do a cover of Starless
and KC do a cover of Awaken.
Don't know if Jon A. could pull it off or
if Robert F. could sound so uplifted.
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harm s.
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 15:29 |
Dr. Occulator wrote:
Nipsey88 wrote:
[QUOTE=Dr. Occulator] [QUOTE=Nipsey88]
"Dinosaur". Great tune, and great lyrics with a wink.
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The mark of a great band; when you're confident enough to make fun of yourself.
Don't think Jon Anderson ever poked fun at himself for having pretentious lyrics. I actually think he feels like he's God preaching in 'Awaken', where KC's Court of the Crimson King obviously emanates from some lower region of the netherworlds.  |
Actually, Jon Anderson did poke fun at himself once! In "Going for the One" he sings:
"Now the verses I've sang Don't add much weight to the story in my head So I'm thinking I should go and write a punch line But they're so hard to find In my cosmic mind So I think I'll take a look out of the window"
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nobody
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:03 |
Aaron wrote:
i guess overall, crimson is the better band if you look at the entire career, but they never wrote a song even close to as good as Gates of Delirium, Close to the Edge, or Awaken
no reason for me to mention that in this thread, but i did
Aaron
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With all due respect, that is a ridiculous statement. It proves that you might have heard Crimson, but you've never really listened.
Every single KC album has at least one track (if not several) that are the equal of the tremendous Yes pieces you mention. To whit:
21st Century Schizoid Man In the Wake of Poseidon Cirkus Sailor's Tale Exiles Trio Starless The Sheltering Sky Waiting Man Three of a Perfect Pair
That's just one track from the first 10 KC records, just as an example. Come to think of it, that's a nice mixtape if you wanted to make it.
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Hemispheres
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:10 |
What about King Crimson compared to Abba
Or Yes compared to Canibal Corpse
now thats oppositte
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Zac M
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:13 |
Seriously, the idea of polar oppsites isn't correct concering KC and Yes, even if you're only referring to Prog.
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Zweck
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:20 |
Ricochet wrote:
okay,they could be considered opposites...so?
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It's sort of like w**king off on your guitar for twenty-three minutes; you're not really accomplishing anything, but you still seem like you're not a waste of carbon.
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Syzygy
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 18:34 |
Dr. Occulator wrote:
Nipsey88 wrote:
[QUOTE=Dr. Occulator] [QUOTE=Nipsey88]
"Dinosaur". Great tune, and great lyrics with a wink.
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The mark of a great band; when you're confident enough to make fun of yourself.
Don't think Jon Anderson ever poked fun at himself for having pretentious lyrics. I actually think he feels like he's God preaching in 'Awaken', where KC's Court of the Crimson King obviously emanates from some lower region of the netherworlds.  |
In the title track of Going For The One he does exactly that:
"Now there verses I've sung don't add much weight/To the story in my head/So I think I'd better go and write a punchline
But they're so hard to find in my cosmic mind.... "
Just noticed Harm S made exactly the same point a few posts back...
Edited by Syzygy
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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Progger
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:09 |
Aaron wrote:
i guess overall, crimson is the better band if you look at the entire career, but they never wrote a song even close to as good as Gates of Delirium, Close to the Edge, or Awaken
no reason for me to mention that in this thread, but i did
Aaron
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Absolutey correct! 
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Rosescar
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:10 |
Yes' quality went down terribly during the 80's though, whereas Crimso's didn't really.
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Progger
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 19:12 |
Rosescar wrote:
Yes' quality went down terribly during the 80's though, whereas Crimso's didn't really. |
I bought most Crimso 80's lp's in the bargain bins at Woolworths and that's were they belong!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 20:05 |
I think real prog polar opposites, the vocalists
Richard Sinclair (Caravan, Hatfield)
vs.
Peter Hammill (VdGG)
could they be any more different?
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Aaron
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 23:03 |
nobody wrote:
Aaron wrote:
i guess overall, crimson is the better band if you look at the entire career, but they never wrote a song even close to as good as Gates of Delirium, Close to the Edge, or Awaken
no reason for me to mention that in this thread, but i did
Aaron
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With all due respect, that is a ridiculous statement. It proves that you might have heard Crimson, but you've never really listened.
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"never really listened"
thanks for insulting me? it's just my opinion jackass
hugs
Aaron
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nobody
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 00:21 |
Aaron wrote:
it's just my opinion jackass
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You dismissed all KC songs as universally inferior to those of a band who last pushed a musical boundary in the mid-1970s, and whose original drummer gave up millions of dollars, fame and security to go with KC, who haven't stopped pushing them to this very day.
What you meant to say was, "I really like the sunny, diatonic, positive vibes of The Affirmatives and I can't stand the depressing, wigged-out, atavistically-inclined Crimso."
Sorry if I insulted your ears.
Hugs!
nobody
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Losendos
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 07:16 |
Don't think Jon Anderson ever poked fun at himself for having pretentious lyrics. I actually think he feels like he's God preaching in 'Awaken', where KC's Court of the Crimson King obviously emanates from some lower region of the netherworlds. [/QUOTE]
But what about "now the verses I've sung don't add much weight
to the story in my head so I'm thinking I should go and write a punchline
But they're so hard to find in my cosmic mind
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How wonderful to be so profound
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Rosescar
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 07:49 |
Progger wrote:
Rosescar wrote:
Yes' quality went down terribly during the 80's though, whereas Crimso's didn't really. |
I bought most Crimso 80's lp's in the bargain bins at Woolworths and that's were they belong! |
bargain bin > garbage bin
Get my point?
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