QM: Does Time exist?

Atavachron wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: ^ You can post all those trash you want from the internet but that doesn't take away personal experience (i have plenty of it). Have you never been to a Traditional Chinese medicine doctor? Have you never received acupuncture? I have and it did indeed work, which is another way of saying I felt better the next day and have no real proof it was the acupuncture.   This specialist also applied glass suction bowls to my back.    Was it the bowls?   Was it the needles?   Was it the herbs he gave me which I took for several weeks that were unrelated to my having the flu?   Was it his advice that I never eat anything raw or uncooked which is questionable considering raw fruits & vegetables are an important part of a person's diet?   Or maybe his insistence I not eat sweets only for me to notice a quart of ice cream in his freezer?   Hard to say. SillyPuppy wrote: Unless you have researched this for at least a decade, you're not even remotely qualified to have a discussion really. No offense. Yeah I don't know... here on the forums we all discuss/debate things we haven't necessarily (or at all) researched for a decade.   I've been looking into UFOs for about 45 years and am only reasonably informed.   On the other hand I've been thoroughly researching the JFK assassination for about 25 years and consider myself a foremost expert in the field, far more knowledgeable than most "experts" whose books I've read, films I've seen, or see & hear on social media.   Most of them are under-qualified buffoons who make so many errors and bad calls it is painfully embarrassing to someone with even ten years of solid research. Which is to say it seems that proper, serious, extended and relentless work of re-reading, re-watching, re-thinking, and over-researching even after you've come to an 'ultimate conclusion' rather than chronologic time is what matters the most.

siLLy puPPy wrote: When it comes to scalar energy i've researched enough to be convinced of its existence and personally know those who have cleverly tapped its bounty.

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MikeEnRegalia wrote: Logan wrote: Often people who research and research and research just ending up going deeper and deeper down rabbitholes only paying "serious" attention to that which already confirms their biases. Years and years of research is not always helpful in getting to the truth (not all research has the same merit) and can lead to a bunch of other questionable beliefs, pseudo-scientific views and general crackpottery. The sunk cost fallacy also plays into this. People who have invested years of "research" (however meaningful it might have been) and possibly money (you can buy some really expensive Orgone "devices" on the internet) do not like the idea that it might all have been a waste of time - or even worse, that they've "been had". The typical angry responses and personal attacks one gets for pointing out basic facts to these people (like that their tenets contradict well-established scientific laws and therefore cannot be correct) are a strong indication of these biases having been at work for years.  Disclaimer: I fully acknowledge that I also have my biases.

Absolutely. The investment of time and money, pride, the echo chamber effect/ conformation bias, bias reinforcement, that idea of being special and holding esoteric knowledge that others just can't see or are too blinded to see are all major factors, and a sense of belonging to some exclusive club that know the truth for many.

I have been interested in cults, especially Heaven's Gate and when doubts arise that idea of having wasted so much of your life was strong factor in remaining. And the community. They were put into pairs as check partners to affirm that each was following the right path. Even the leader had doubts, but the "students' would want to reassure him that what they were doing was right. And no doubt his pride was important. I have heard from scientists who have said that it could be so hard to let go of a hypothesis after investing years on it when evidence/ data conflicts with it. People want to be right and self-correcting is often not easy nor is being corrected by others. So often people take offence when one questions their methodology -- take it as a personal attack rather than an opportunity for reassessment and growth or shift the goalpots when confronted as they get defensive. The truth (or what seems more reasonable) can be a very bitter pill to swallow. "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth."