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Andrea Cortese 
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 03:31 |
This question is for you all, american friends!
I knew from TV (discovery channel ? I don't remember...) that this great song from Blue Oyster Cult's Fire Of Unknown Origin album is about an omonimous actress who, after her death, was described in a book by her daughter as a horrible mother...
Can you tell me something more about this true story? and what about that book?
And what do you think about the BOC' song? what about their 1981 album?
IMO both album and song are beautiful!!
- Fire Of Unknown Origin - (words by Patti Smith)
- Burnin' For You
- Veteran Of The Psychic Wars
- Vengeance (The Pact)
- Sole Survivor
- Joan Crawford
- Heavy Metal: The Black And Silver
- Don't Turn Your Back
- After Dark
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geezer
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 05:56 |
 Andrea Cortese wrote:
This question is for you all, american friends!
I knew from TV (discovery channel ? I don't remember...) that this
great song from Blue Oyster Cult's Fire Of Unknown Origin album is
about an omonimous actress who, after her death, was described in
a book by her daughter as a horrible mother...
Can you tell me something more about this true story? and what about that book?
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I'm not American but I have read this same thing as well. I don't know
more than you about this though. When I was younger I used to be some
sort of film freak and saw some movies starring this actress. She
seemed pretty normal to me.
Andrea Cortese wrote:
And what do you think about the BOC' song? what about their 1981 album?
IMO both album and song are beautiful!!
- Fire Of Unknown Origin - (words by Patti Smith)
- Burnin' For You
- Veteran Of The Psychic Wars
- Vengeance (The Pact)
- Sole Survivor
- Joan Crawford
- Heavy Metal: The Black And Silver
- Don't Turn Your Back
- After Dark
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The song and album are great (Secret Treaties and this are the best BÖC
albums). My favourite song from this album is "Vengeance (The Pact)".
Nowadays, I rarely listen anything else except prog but a few times a
year I spin some BÖC discs among with some other non-prog music.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 06:00 |
Great you also love this band, Geezer!
I know you're a great fan of the italian prog scene!
What do you think about Locanda delle Fate?
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geezer
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 06:19 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Great you also love this band, Geezer!
I know you're a great fan of the italian prog scene!
What do you think about Locanda delle Fate? |
Locanda delle Fate's album was the first Italian album I heard so it has a special place in my heart. Love at first sting. 
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 10:57 |
C'mon american friends!
I'm really courious to know something more about it!
Only you can help me!
P.S. italy 5,00 p.m.-east coast 11,00 a.m.: I hope you are awake!!
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horza
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:05 |
Mommie Dearest was a book written about Joan Crawford and how she treated her kids
P.S. i'm not american - can I be your friend anyway ? 
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:08 |
Of course you can!
Thanks, I didn't remember the book's title.
P.S. I remembered only it was written by Joan Crawford's daughter!
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horza
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:12 |
i knew that AND i'm not american - does it get any better ??
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Phil
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:18 |
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There was a very, very crude sketch about Joan Crawford done by Peter
Cook and Dudley Moore in their "Derek & Clive" guise that was
well...just very very rude and very crude...as well as being quite
funny, if you like that sort of thing.....I won't even begin to
describe it......
Sorry I know that adds nothing to your knowledge of Joan Crawford!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:37 |
Phil wrote:
There was a very, very crude sketch about Joan Crawford done by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore in their "Derek & Clive" guise that was well...just very very rude and very crude...as well as being quite funny, if you like that sort of thing.....I won't even begin to describe it......
Sorry I know that adds nothing to your knowledge of Joan Crawford!
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Thanks Phil for your interesting informations!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 11:42 |
horza wrote:
i knew that AND i'm not american - does it get any better ?? |
I thought me and americans only knew this dark story, but I have to correct myself, 'cause many europeans have heard something about it!
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 12:05 |
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I am not really familiar with BOC,but I have read Mommy Dearest and saw the movie based on the book(starring Faye Dunaway as Crawford).Basically the woman was a violently abusive monster and I could never watch her films after that.
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 12:13 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
I am not really familiar with BOC,but I have read Mommy Dearest and saw the movie based on the book(starring Faye Dunaway as Crawford).Basically the woman was a violently abusive monster and I could never watch her films after that. |
GREAT! Thank you for the precious informations!
I didn't know there was a film based on Mommie Dearest!
Did the book and the film have had great success in USA? (I think it did).
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 12:21 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
I am not really familiar with BOC,but I have read Mommy Dearest and saw the movie based on the book(starring Faye Dunaway as Crawford).Basically the woman was a violently abusive monster and I could never watch her films after that. |
GREAT! Thank you for the precious informations!
I didn't know there was a film based on Mommie Dearest!
Did the book and the film have had great success in USA? (I think it did).
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Yes they did.It came out in the late 70's and everyone was reading it and it cause quite a stir.I picked up my Mom's copy years later when I didn't have anything to read and I thought the book was absolutely horrifying(by that I don't mean a bad book,but the things that Crawford did to her children)
If you google Mommie Dearest you can find info about the film at IMDB.com
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