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Pedro, to put my comment in context, it relates to the side-discussion starting with (not sure how much of the thread you read).

Originally posted by mickcoxinha mickcoxinha wrote:

The problem with new rock bands is that most of the rock fans only want to listen to old bands and watch either old bands or cover bands of old bands.


As I said, I have heard musicians say that they need to play covers to make money at gigs. And while many cover bands might not do it for the money, I think for some that was the only way to get significant gigs. That cover bands are increasing lends credence to the idea that audiences are not that interested in new bands with new material. My wife was in Santa Clara recently (her workplace is based there so goes there frequently) and there was a huge rock band gig that meant big traffic delays. It was The Rolling Stones. I find it sad that so many audience members just want to hear the old stuff from classic bands, and this bothers many musicians.

As classical was mentioned, I also have heard from conductors, in one case he was talking about operas, that most people just want to hear the same old known stuff and he would like to showcase more modern performances.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

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As classical was mentioned, I also have heard from conductors, in one case he was talking about operas, that most people just want to hear the same old known stuff and he would like to showcase more modern performances.

Hi,

I think that is to be expected, but in the end, it says something about the "fans" and how they hear all the music ... I suppose we can say that many of them DON'T listen to a lot of music. But seeing the Rolling Stones rake in millions and and at least 1000 bands not getting a chance is a very sad sight, but that's the way it is, and has been for a long time. It was pretty much the same thing about classical music in its time, and it is being seen these days, without many classical concerts even being mentioned ... like no one cares, and the folks that are putting those on are not spending the money because there aren't enough fans to pay for it.

But, in my experience, a lot of conductors are the problem, as many of them are just trying to maintain the orchestra in one piece and only a few big ones have the ability to try and play new things, but the guy in Portland when I met him years ago, was upset that there was not a younger audience, to many shows, and I said he should play something more modern in the middle of it ... like what? And I even suggested, that Frank Zappa was a good example ... he gets played in Europe ... but ignored in America except for his guitar! 

In the end, I think the real problem with playing Frank Zappa is how tight and clean a lot of the performances are and the details are all scored. And it takes away the ability to play a part this way instead of that way, which many conductors over the last 75 years have made their names with. But someone that has no courage and is afraid to bring in a new audience to mix/match with the older audience, is probably not going to be around very much ... as the orchestras in America lose even more fans and funding. It will take a new person, and new material to make a difference, and right now ... ??? There is none! Or not enough for us to mention and discuss.

I think the rock thing about the huge star, like the Rolling Stones, is slowing down a lot. The Internet has brought out too many other bands that got big enough, and it has diluted the whole thing ... the Rolling Stones, will likely be the end of an era ... just like Pavarotti was the end of an era ... even Carnegie Hall is having a real hard time with selling out these days, and it tried to make do with all the "famous" this and that person to make it look like it was a huge event, and folks fall for it. It's called advertising.

But I think once the Rolling Stones stop, that a lot of the old folks will also stop ... already Neil Young is showing cracks as are many others. AND, it's time we give a new generation a chance ... and that's the main reason why I look at new things a lot more than I do yet another thread about Pink Flush or Genesisness or even Ian Tullip!


Edited by moshkito - August 15 2024 at 18:24
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