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Quote Some fans dig Goblin's decidedly poppy 1982 album, Volo, others disavow it, but tucked away at the very end of Side B is a nice instrumental titled "Est," which was reworked for their score to the thriller Notturno.
Poppy is the last thing that comes to my mind when tryna describe this album. It's much closer sonically to KPM's 70s library music.

I don't think it deserves being loathed by the reviewers around here like it was. If you focus on the songwriting, arrangement and procuction, it's a much more enjoyable album than A Rainbow in Curved Air by Terry Riley. At least Goblin's Volo has some structure to it instead of being almost entirely organ noodling with """groundbreaking""" tape manipulation jerkery. Those self proclaimed prog experts are incredibly biased imho.

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote Some fans dig Goblin's decidedly poppy 1982 album, Volo, others disavow it, but tucked away at the very end of Side B is a nice instrumental titled "Est," which was reworked for their score to the thriller Notturno.


Poppy is the last thing that comes to my mind when tryna describe this album. It's much closer sonically to KPM's 70s library music.

I don't think it deserves being loathed by the reviewers around here like it was. If you focus on the songwriting, arrangement and procuction, it's a much more enjoyable album than A Rainbow in Curved Air by Terry Riley. At least Goblin's Volo has some structure to it instead of being almost entirely organ noodling with """groundbreaking""" tape manipulation jerkery. Those self proclaimed prog experts are incredibly biased imho.


"Poppy" as in popular. It's Goblin's least "popular" album with the fans for that reason (and there's no bigger Goblin fan on this forum than moi).

I don't get the comparison to A Rainbow in Curved Air, either. That's a stretch. That's like comparing Relationship of Command by At the Drive In to Suzanne Ciani's Buchla improvisations. It doesn't compute.

I'm not saying Volo is unlistenable. I'll listen to anything Fabio Pignatelli plays bass on.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hrychu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2024 at 21:45
Quote "Poppy" as in popular.
Oh ok. I thought that by "poppy" you meant "pop music sounding". Thx for clarifying. ❤
Quote I don't get the comparison to A Rainbow in Curved Air, either. That's a stretch. That's like comparing Relationship of Command by At the Drive In to Suzanne Ciani's Buchla improvisations. It doesn't compute.
Yeeeeah, perhaps it is a bit of a stretch. But the thing is, Progarchives has a uniform numeric star rating system, which in my opinion is as pointless as it can possibly be. And because every review posted here is required to conform to its rigid structure, the real context to the more ambiguous reviews really suffers in terms of communication with the reader, whose perception of that review can often be shaped by the star value. YMMV
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I almost mentioned this album with this song in mind! Agreed!
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Some fans dig Goblin's decidedly poppy 1982 album, Volo, others disavow it, but tucked away at the very end of Side B is a nice instrumental titled "Est," which was reworked for their score to the thriller Notturno.

"Est" from Volohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIB1M_7fgNU

"Est" from Notturnohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7XqFoFmieA


I messed up my first attempt to respond to this and I’m not sure how to delete it yet. But the first album I thought of was Volo and that exact track! That said, I listened to it more recently and wasn’t as impressed with it like I was the first time. Don’t get me wrong, they’re one of the few bands I’ve seen live, and I love them! They’ve just had better albums IMO.
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Originally posted by Neon_meate Neon_meate wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Some fans dig Goblin's decidedly poppy 1982 album, Volo, others disavow it, but tucked away at the very end of Side B is a nice instrumental titled "Est," which was reworked for their score to the thriller Notturno.

"Est" from Volohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIB1M_7fgNU

"Est" from Notturnohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7XqFoFmieA


I messed up my first attempt to respond to this and I’m not sure how to delete it yet. But the first album I thought of was Volo and that exact track! That said, I listened to it more recently and wasn’t as impressed with it like I was the first time. Don’t get me wrong, they’re one of the few bands I’ve seen live, and I love them! They’ve just had better albums IMO.


That's why everything else casts a shadow over Volo.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I have been on edge when being critical of it. Surely not a crappy album, but as close to this topic as I could think of without putting my brains on the rack (my brain on crack some might say).

This the best paragraph in the history of the forum.

Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

I'll go one further: I'm still amazed the ELPowell album gets so much hate. Yes, there's the 1980s production values and the "corporate" logo cover artwork, but everything else about the album is pure, unadulterated brilliance! I've owned the album since the day it was released, and I never tire of listening to it. Above all, I'm convinced "The Score" is one of the best things Emerson ever wrote!

Definitely, it's Emerson, but for me, they try to adapt to the new music of the eighties and don't succeed, and I find that extremely painful.
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I would call Yes' "Relayer" a 'half-album' because the side-long song "The Gates of Delirium" is great while the rest of the album is weak, in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Antoni Antoni wrote:

I would call Yes' "Relayer" a 'half-album' because the side-long song "The Gates of Delirium" is great while the rest of the album is weak, in my opinion.

To be over ---> 😴
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Except that Sound Chaser is one of, if not their best, track...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Neon_meate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2024 at 08:37
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Neon_meate Neon_meate wrote:

Grumpyprogfan, I have waited years, searching for you in hopes to find you out in the wild to discuss music since so much of what you like aligns with what I like. But saying this statement makes me wish to take all the searching back.      
This is your first forum post since joining two years ago, and you waited that long to "discuss music" with me?


I sent you a message but I have no idea if I did it correctly no rush on replying to it but i didn’t want to be rude on this thread and talk about unrelated subjects.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2024 at 11:45
As the earlier thread is apparently lost, the first two things that come to my mind regarding this question are Kismet by Amon Düül II, an extremely strong track on the otherwise very mediocre Only Human album, and the album of which I use the cover as Avatar, Holger Czukay's Der Osten ist Rot, which has a lot of flimsy, funny and not very deep stuff, and then it has "Träum Mal Wieder", which is a monster of a track.

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