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10cc vs Steely Dan
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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer?
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Steely Dan and 10cc have one thing in common and that is featuring Jeff Porcaro on drums ~ Jeff started hes session carear as Steely Dan drummer on "Katy Lied" when he was 20 years old, he played drums on 10cc album "Meanwhile" which was hes last one before he died 45 years old.

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Steely Dan............though I have always liked many of the tracks by 10cc.
In my case I always thought of 10cc as a kind of  British version of Dan. 
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10cc, I "Feel the benefit"
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Again, my vote goes to Steely Dan.

This...
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Can Steely Dan match the vocal power of Kevin Godley and Eric Stewart? Than they also have the clever vocals of Lol Creme and Graham Gouldman also, all together they did marvels in vocal overdubs and choral arrangements only conpared with Queen.

Instrumentaly one is not far of comparison if you place them alongside Gentle Giant, in terms of break a neck precision and quirk.



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For the third time, I'd count these two among my favourite bands, but Steely Dan wins again. 
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I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes
Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?


Or it's just an example of gratuitously indulgent warbling in a rather transparent attempt to overwhelm sappy listeners with faux pathos.

That was a hit "next" in a millisecond or less song for me. Can't understand a prog fan purring up with all that saccharine sap.
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Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?


Or it's just an example of gratuitously indulgent warbling in a rather transparent attempt to overwhelm sappy listeners with faux pathos.

That was a hit "next" in a millisecond or less song for me. Can't understand a prog fan purring up with all that saccharine sap.
some pieces of music transcends genrefication we normaly attach to pieces of art. This particular piece is lacking the structure normaly known to describe the popular formula of pop. Art pop and progressive pop has become more and more a tag also rutinly taken in and defkned in wikipedia. I think in 100 years I'm Not in Love will be rememberd and hailed in high regard, almost like classical music or jazz standard, standard of art pop/rock

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10cc has better musicianship IMHO and funnier lyrics. Hard to top that.
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definitely getting better in the comparison ways.. but still...  hard to top the Dan for anything that involves comparing progressiveness, musical talent, songwriting and quality in lyricalism and musicanship.  Easy vote as they all have been for the Dan.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I'm Not in Love is a gorgeous song, a textbook example of celestial harmony. It is also textbook example on etherial soundscapes

Ok but does textbook examples make for the greatest art? And is it really a texbook example of celestial harmony?


Or it's just an example of gratuitously indulgent warbling in a rather transparent attempt to overwhelm sappy listeners with faux pathos.

That was a hit "next" in a millisecond or less song for me. Can't understand a prog fan purring up with all that saccharine sap.
some pieces of music transcends genrefication we normaly attach to pieces of art. This particular piece is lacking the structure normaly known to describe the popular formula of pop. Art pop and progressive pop has become more and more a tag also rutinly taken in and defkned in wikipedia. I think in 100 years I'm Not in Love will be rememberd and hailed in high regard, almost like classical music or jazz standard, standard of art pop/rock


My post had nothing to do with whatever genre label someone may choose to put on a song.

I'm curious how your crystal ball predicts such a future for the song. Its never been held in that high regard, even when it was a hit and since only continues to fall further in obscurity.
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10CC.
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Dan
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