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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 02:55
Originally posted by caston Band caston Band wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

BTW How much longer till Deep Purple is erased??

Gonna be a while, we're still trying to get Queen out.



Well Queen is still questionable,but Deep Purple is WITHOUT A DOUBT not fit here,with Concerto or not...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:01

Queen/Deep Purple ----I say they are here...so wake up and move on.....enjoy the site. BTW, do you guys own it??? If it pisses you off move on...or shrug it off. Queen on the site....another good move only for their first four albums, can't deny the progressive element. Sorry but it is a damning fact.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:15
I didn't really think Styx and Supertramp were prog before I got here, now I can see why, but I think Why not Blue Oyster Cult? They are as prog as Styx and Supertramp right? But I hope BOC will never be added to this site because they are clearly not prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:16

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

So when do we include Jean Luc Ponty and Jan Hammer, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck? Their prog elements are just as strong as Black Sabbath or some other rock bands. Doesnt a line need to be drawn somewhere?

I would argue that JLP deserves inclusion and maybe Brubeck but not Miles Davis or Jan Hammer c'mon! JLP contribution is a definite. I would say that Jazz Fusion is more Prog orientated than pure Jazz like Miles Davis...although equally respectable

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:20

Originally posted by video vertigo video vertigo wrote:

I didn't really think Styx and Supertramp were prog before I got here, now I can see why, but I think Why not Blue Oyster Cult? They are as prog as Styx and Supertramp right? But I hope BOC will never be added to this site because they are clearly not prog.

Blue Oyster Cult deserve inclusion if only for their 70's contributions as would Spooky Tooth.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:26
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Yes... are great bands... but never...

deep purple shouldnt be here


why not? they are definitely precursors of prog metal. I had in fact wondered why there is such a huge section of prog metal bands and no Deep Purple when I first came to this side


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:42

Hang on, some of us don't even think Rush are prog!!

Deep Purple, Radiohead and Queen are definitely not prog IMO, but I suspect they're here to stay.

What about:

Golden Earring

Wishbone Ash

Runrig

All those are at least as prog as the recent additions but for God's sake don't add them!!!

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:44

Peter

Chaps PLEASE don't turn this site into a general rock site.Led Zep and Sabbath are geat bands but there is absolutely no good reason in the world to include them.

JUST SAY NO..YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 03:52
Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

Hang on, some of us don't even think Rush are prog!!

Deep Purple, Radiohead and Queen are definitely not prog IMO, but I suspect they're here to stay.

What about:

Golden Earring

Wishbone Ash

Runrig

All those are at least as prog as the recent additions but for God's sake don't add them!!!

 

 

How can you say ' Ballad of the Beacon' is not prog or anything from the debut to Pilgrimage. ' Front Page News' is commercial but a darn site better than Invisible touch and noone questions Genesis because of their highly important early work. Let's not deny the early 70's created prog in bands that did not perhaps even have a leaning towards prog at the time but still went along for the ride. Therefore excluding them reduces the credibility of this fine site.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 04:15
Originally posted by Chris Stacey Chris Stacey wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Fisher Tony Fisher wrote:

Hang on, some of us don't even think Rush are prog!!

Deep Purple, Radiohead and Queen are definitely not prog IMO, but I suspect they're here to stay.

What about:

Golden Earring

Wishbone Ash

Runrig

All those are at least as prog as the recent additions but for God's sake don't add them!!!

 

 

How can you say ' Ballad of the Beacon' is not prog or anything from the debut to Pilgrimage. ' Front Page News' is commercial but a darn site better than Invisible touch and noone questions Genesis because of their highly important early work. Let's not deny the early 70's created prog in bands that did not perhaps even have a leaning towards prog at the time but still went along for the ride. Therefore excluding them reduces the credibility of this fine site.

I don't agree with the last line at all.Why? I grew up in the seventies (like many here) and Sabbath and Led Zep (not to mention Queen) were never considered prog.It will distort and dilute the importnace of this site to include them.They are great ROCK icons.Leave them be.Deep Purple did produce the concerto for group and orchesta album so they have some reason for being here although I would have kept them out as the lines are now getting too blurry and inevitably we are getting the calls to include Sabbath and Led Zep as well.Slippery slope... 

btw I still think there was a justification for including Radiohead who have produced at least 2 full prog albums.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 07:30
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

Yes... are great bands... but never...

deep purple shouldnt be here


why not? they are definitely precursors of prog metal. I had in fact wondered why there is such a huge section of prog metal bands and no Deep Purple when I first came to this side


I would say that Rush was the precursor of prog metal. Deep Purple had nothing to do with it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 08:57
Originally posted by Chris Stacey Chris Stacey wrote:

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

So when do we include Jean Luc Ponty and Jan Hammer, Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck? Their prog elements are just as strong as Black Sabbath or some other rock bands. Doesnt a line need to be drawn somewhere?

I would argue that JLP deserves inclusion and maybe Brubeck but not Miles Davis or Jan Hammer c'mon! JLP contribution is a definite. I would say that Jazz Fusion is more Prog orientated than pure Jazz like Miles Davis...although equally respectable

 

Miles' Bitches Brew IS Fusion. The key members of MO, RTF and WR played on Miles' albums.

why do we never get an answer when we're knocking at the door?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 08:58
How is it that folks on this site don't understand the difference between heavy metal and progressive-rock?
why do we never get an answer when we're knocking at the door?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 16:15

Originally posted by dmille dmille wrote:

How is it that folks on this site don't understand the difference between heavy metal and progressive-rock?

ErmmMany are too young to have lived through the classic prog era -- they see metal bands (with keyboards) here, so they think that classic hard rock bands must now somhow be "prog" by default. (They're trying to get them "in through the out door."Wink)

As so-called "prog" fans, many think that everything they like must somehow now be prog.Wacko

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 16:35
Black Sabbath?
Grand Funk ?
Led Zep?
Blue Oyster Cult?

We tiptoe around the edges of etiquette far too much on this forum.
Anyone who suggested any of those bands or agrees that they are Prog is mentally-retarded.

This is not an opinion.It is the only conclusion one can draw from this lunacy!

Go away quickly please.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2005 at 04:37
I agree with Tony.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 11 2005 at 10:02

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Black Sabbath?
Grand Funk ?
Led Zep?
Blue Oyster Cult?

We tiptoe around the edges of etiquette far too much on this forum.
Anyone who suggested any of those bands or agrees that they are Prog is mentally-retarded.

This is not an opinion.It is the only conclusion one can draw from this lunacy!

Go away quickly please.

Just start banning people who make ridiculous threads like this.

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