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    Posted: February 06 2014 at 13:58
Hey, I was thinking the other day about bands that really keep to the genre of progressive rock, always experimenting and trying completely new ideas. The only real band that came to mind was King Crimson (and possibly Frank Zappa), they seem to be in a completely different league (to bands like Yes, Genesis, etc.) when it comes to this. I've struggled to think of any others, so can anyone say what bands they can think of. 

Also, as stated in the question, what is the band/artist that keeps true to the prog rock genre in your opinion? As I've already said, mine is King Crimson.

Looking forward to any feedback! Tongue


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Cool idea!
People could also come up with bands that stayed truest to their prog subgenres. Magma would be a shoe-in for that. Smile

I'd like to nominate The Mars Volta as being true to prog as a whole throughout their albums. Thumbs Up
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Does experimenting in popular music or other more mainstream styles count as trying something new?
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^ Nogbad's list is 'bang-on' (although I'm not familiar with 'Thinking Plague'...)
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I love the expression 'bang on', very English.
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^ There's more of a WOW! factor to 'bang-on', as opposed to 'spot on'
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Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

Hey, I was thinking the other day about bands that really keep to the genre of progressive rock, always experimenting and trying completely new ideas.


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Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Does experimenting in popular music or other more mainstream styles count as trying something new?


If we are going for truly carrying the spirit of progressive rock then I would say certainly not.

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Mike Oldfield has an extremely varied body of work that cuts across different sub genres. Once he perfects one style he moves on and does something different.
Vangelis is also worth a mention. Beauborg , Earth ,Heaven and Hell , Hypothesis , L'Apocalypse Des Animaux and The Dragon are all completely different. Over the years he has settled down and pushed out more albums that conform to a style of music that he is famous for admittedly but you still get the odd surprise like Mythodea.
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Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...

The Flower Kings are continually knocked for being derivative of the best prog bands.  I think that qualifies them for being truest to the genre and also disproves your statement.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...



Er, Magma and Tangerine Dream
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Points: 12816 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2014 at 21:37
As said, I thought about "The Flower Kings", even though I haven't heard much from them. I would also think about Dream Theater and Transatlantic.
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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2014 at 23:20
Hi Xonty, great post!
To me The Beatles considering their era, they were and are to date fundamental and ground-breaking in terms of progressive music. They experimented with several instruments inc. the French horn and the Sitar among many others just to name a few, also to me they were the first to produce a metal track which is Helter Skelter :)
Also they did not take stupid things seriously and made some silly tracks (i.e. I AM A walrus), I love silly tracks   
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

As said, I thought about "The Flower Kings", even though I haven't heard much from them. I would also think about Dream Theater and Transatlantic.

Yeah, mostly the 'new' (as in 90s onwards) bands actually.  I guess it was harder for older bands to survive long enough to release a dozen or more albums and remain prog.  Also, the music was evolving much more rapidly in the 70s whereas by the 90s, prog's boundaries were kind of defined. Of the well known older bands, maybe KC stuck to prog all the way.  Haven't heard some of the mid 70s work of VDGG so not sure if they qualify.  Rush and Camel went borderline at times but probably not out and out pop at any stage unlike Yes/Genesis/GG. I have heard that Merci is Magma's attempt at pop but haven't heard the album so can't comment.
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Points: 11420 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2014 at 02:37
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Show me a band truest to the genre and I'll show you a band that hasn't put out a lot of albums...

The Flower Kings are continually knocked for being derivative of the best prog bands.  I think that qualifies them for being truest to the genre and also disproves your statement.


Can a copy be considered closer to the original than an original that has progressed beyond their starting point from the early 70's? (King Crimson and to a lesser extent, VDGG are the only originals I can think of who have managed this without recourse to dumbing down their music)

BTW I'm not having a go at the Flower Kings, but for me they're retroprogressives, albeit very talented and skilful ones like Transatlantic, Wobbler and Black Bonzo etc
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Mike Oldfield has an extremely varied body of work that cuts across different sub genres. Once he perfects one style he moves on and does something different.
Vangelis is also worth a mention. Beauborg , Earth ,Heaven and Hell , Hypothesis , L'Apocalypse Des Animaux and The Dragon are all completely different. Over the years he has settled down and pushed out more albums that conform to a style of music that he is famous for admittedly but you still get the odd surprise like Mythodea.

yeah but this genre tagging is for the listener to compartmentalize, for me Vangelis should never be in prog related but in prog electronic. Most artists get uncomfortable being pigeon holed into a genre.
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