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ldlanberg
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Topic: A Petition for Deep Purple Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:23 |
I've noticed that there are at least a few others out there who have enjoyed the art of early Deep Purple albums. It was early Deep Purple albums (1968-1970) that led me into enjoying Genesis, Yes and King Crimson. (Genesis later becoming my favorite overall). Deep Purple - Jon Lord's exquisite keyboard/organ workouts and the neo-classical interplay with guitarist Ritchie Blackmore - first introduced me to what is called "Prog".
I ask that anyone else who has actually heard the music in question, and not just the more sluggish Machine Head album, please reply and make your voice heard. Deep Purple really should be on Prog Archives site.
Thanks.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:36 |
If you're serious about this then talk to Max. I'll happily support you though.
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cobb
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:37 |
Why?
They are rock. There was only one that could vaguely be called prog and
that was taliesyn. The rest are (excellent) rock recordings. No
different to Zepplin. Just be happy that they produced some of the
finest rock in history and love their work for what it is.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:39 |
Trouserpress wrote:
If you're serious about this then talk to Max. I'll happily support you though. |
That's true, it makes the process a lot more quick. I recently sent my submission for Adrian Belew and hope to get him in the Archives.
And to answer the question above, I'd have to be kind of in the middle. Their early material has prog sensibilities, but not enough IMO to be in the archives. Still, they got soem great prog moments.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:41 |
Adrian Belew rocks. that album he did with Les Claypool and Danny Carrie is crazy cool stuff. Was it Side 1 i believe?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:41 |
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we need an OF INTEREST
section to briefly profile groups whom proggers ought to take into
consideration but are very borderline. ELO, Queen, Miles Davis, Deep
Purple, Fairport Convention, all the names that pop up again and again
could be dealt with in a few small pages. Surely this would be a
sensible way to acknowledge groups with some progressive leanings?
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 20:46 |
gok22us wrote:
Adrian Belew rocks. that album he did with Les Claypool and Danny Carrie is crazy cool stuff. Was it Side 1 i believe?
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Yes, and he released Side Two last week. And based on the strength of those two albums (and a few of his earlier ones), I feel he needs a place here.
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Lyzarrd
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 21:06 |
I'll support this as well. Deep Purple does stand out as a borderline
but I believe they are far more prog than some of the bands listed on
this site. If Styx is listed here, certainly DP has to be listed!
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RUM26
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 21:18 |
i don't see why it shouldn't be on prog. i like a lot of purple, but sorry to disapoint you but i injoy the later deep purple like burn and stormbringer.
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The Rock
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 21:20 |
Trouserpress wrote:
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we need an OF INTEREST section to briefly profile groups whom proggers ought to take into consideration but are very borderline. ELO, Queen, Miles Davis, Deep Purple, Fairport Convention, all the names that pop up again and again could be dealt with in a few small pages. Surely this would be a sensible way to acknowledge groups with some progressive leanings? |
I agree,that's a very good idea.I was suggesting that those bands be included but with ''selected discography'' for their albums listing.Anyway,still think they should be in the Archives,one way oe another.
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Anonymous2112
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 21:31 |
Deep Purple should be on here. If you don't agree check out the band Captian Beyond (debut album is the best by far), but they are similar to Deep Purple in many ways and they are on this site. Captian Beyond even has Rod Evans in it. They should be here on art rock.
The other band that should be on here undoubtly is Queen. They are 100% art rock. Don't belive me? listen to 'A Night at the Opera' a classic art rock album.
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Arteum
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 21:37 |
Deep Purple is a capital rock band, but not prog. They go with Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Armageddon, maybe Queen.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 22:12 |
I'd have to say that early on they were fairly progressive, and indeed I read once that Roger glover described them as progressive heavy rock.
It is also interesting to note, but maybe not actually a definitive guide that Deep Purple were signed to Harvest, a predominantly prog label.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 22:23 |
Don't forget that they wrote a song about a major event involving Frank Zappa.
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 22:33 |
The Rock wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
I've said this before and I'll say it again - we need an OF INTEREST section to briefly profile groups whom proggers ought to take into consideration but are very borderline. ELO, Queen, Miles Davis, Deep Purple, Fairport Convention, all the names that pop up again and again could be dealt with in a few small pages. Surely this would be a sensible way to acknowledge groups with some progressive leanings? | I agree,that's a very good idea.I was suggesting that those bands be included but with ''selected discography'' for their albums listing.Anyway,still think they should be in the Archives,one way oe another. |
Once again, yes ... I agree
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ldlanberg
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 00:27 |
The Rock wrote:
I agree,that's a very good idea.I was suggesting that those bands be included but with ''selected discography'' for their albums listing.Anyway,still think they should be in the Archives,one way oe another. |
Thanks for all the input, pro or con. A "selective discography" is exactly what I'd been hoping for - their tracks post-1970 definitely moved far, far away from Proggish Art (that's a good way to describe it!).
I had been thinking only of their first five albums: Shades of Deep Purple, The Book of Taliesyn, Deep Purple, Concerto for Group and Orchestra and 1970's In Rock. The perfect MP3 sampler for this would be "Child in Time" (In Rock. 1970) and something off of their Eponymously titled third Lp (1969); "April, part one", "Fault Line" or "The Bird Has Flown." "Child in Time" though...the studio version defines what In the Court of the Crimson King and Trespass were trying to convey. IMO.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 01:10 |
Deep Purple is pretty proggy 1967-1969
1970- straight hard rock
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 02:52 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
Deep Purple is pretty proggy 1967-1969
1970- straight hard rock |
I'd say that 1967-1969 they were more psychedelic than proggy. 1970-1974 they made extremely progressive heavy rock music - as has been pointed out, this period for DP was more progressive than the entire catalogue of many bands currently in the archives. "In Rock", for example, is more progressive in the actual sense of the word than anything (...) ever wrote (insert the name of almost any band from the mid 1980s onwards).
Because people hear the accessible surface of their music, it's easy to ignore the high quality of musicianship and boundary breaking that Purple did.
I'm agreeing with Trouserpress again...
We need a section for bands (or simply albums by bands) that produced progressive material even if they are not considered to be a prog band in the more general sense.
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 07:01 |
Deep Purple like the late 60's Moody Blues, broke America before the UK, in part because the prog music scene wasn't taking much notice in the UK. In Rock really woke up the UK, with what was a new but fully fashioned form of rock - heavy rock with the Hammond-based blues prog. The proggie aspects would diminish with succeeding albums. Hence again my long held suggestion: a section in Archives for bands with the handful of prog-based albums or albums with some prog-based tunes - for example, the usual litany: Wishbone Ash, Spooky Tooth, Queen, Deep Purple, T2 (and in deed Jeff Buckley if only for that great deconstruct of Back In NYC).
In passing, can somebody remind me of the Taste spin off band, sans Rory Gallagher - I know they did at least one album for Deram.......................... ?
Also noticed KGB has been recently issued on CD, a reunion of Bloomfield* with Kooper but with former Family member Rick Grech playing bass.
*I've always greatly rated Mike Bloomfield as a blues guitarist (so when is the OST of Steelyard Blues going to issued?). Also long wondered what Jewish aspects he and of course Peter Green(baum) brought to that music, which made both their blues something special? I spent a holiday afternoon that other notable Jewish guitarist Gary Lucas at my home at the end of May, and it was evident in our talk that there is a strong coterie here - not so much the faith aspect rather the family upbringing and values, and shared historical experiences.
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 07:18 |
Deep Purple have never played prog rock music or progressive music...the inclusion of different musical genres is too anecdotic in their respective albums
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