Ayreon: Electric Castle (A Space Opera)

The Electric Castle is over-rated IMO, but The Human Equation is fantastic.

The Universal Migrator was a piece of dog doo doo, wasn't it?

I don't blame you Dropforge for heading towards greener pastures, but you missed a good one with The Human Equation.

fractal wrote: I've heard somewhere that this Electric Castle was actually a concept album for a failed animation movie project. Is it true? I know only Universal Migrator and Human Equation (I find this better than the first). All Ayreon albums are concept albums? I hope this approach doesn't get tiresome to the fans.

Actual Fantasy is not really a concept album. But all other Ayreon albums are concept albums ... and they're all very good. Storywise, I like The Final Experiment the most.

eugene wrote: grandoleopry wrote: Why is this great double album never mentioned anywhere as a great double album? Maybe because this double album is not so great. Maybe because this double album is pretty average double album. Boring double album containing only few "elements of great prog, great music and is just a pleasure to listen too without the hard work" That's why, I think....

You stand alone, eugene. Careful with that bashing ...

Yeah, yeah, MikeEnregalia, I know....

But thanks for the warning anyway.

MikeEnRegalia:

Your list is impressive one, and actually I was often thinking how this happens that having had involved so many brilliant musicians Mr. Lucassen still failed to produce a single genius work. Mind you, I am not saying that his music is rubbish, to the contrary - it's quite listenable and probably very much enjoyable to many listeners, I just think it's very much overrated. And again - metal stuff is not really my cup of tea. However I have to admit that I like his last work very much - Human Equation IMO is his best sofar (3.5 / 4 stars).

eugene wrote: MikeEnRegalia: Your list is impressive one, and actually I was often thinking how this happens that having had involved so many brilliant musicians Mr. Lucassen still failed to produce a single genius work. Mind you, I am not saying that his music is rubbish, to the contrary - it's quite listenable and probably very much enjoyable to many listeners, I just think it's very much overrated. And again - metal stuff is not really my cup of tea. However I have to admit that I like his last work very much - Human Equation IMO is his best sofar (3.5 / 4 stars).

Metal is VERY MUCH my cup of tea, and that may influence my judgment. But knowing that, I have become very careful when talking about music that is NOT my cup of tea. I would never post in a Canterbury thread that I think Caravan are overrated, just because I don't like Canterbury. BTW, ordered In The Land Of Pink And Grey ... can't wait for it to arrive.

What I'm saying is that when you bash an artist because you don't like the genre, you make a fool out of yourself (not talking about you specifically, eugene) and hurt the feelings of the fans. They are not all just "fanboys", but - although biased - also much more knowledgeable about the artist and similar artists of the genre.

Regarding the list: So you are really saying that these artists (that you even call "brilliant") all were wrong about Arjen. Don't you at least accept the possibility that you might be wrong, and that he in fact has at least produced a single work of genius?