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    Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:32

I'm listening to Three Sides Live and (unfortunately) happening upon the tracks from Duke. I HATE DUKE!!! It's making me SO ANGRY that I might get cross and make a mistake, like the man-eating rabbit in Monty Python and the Grail.

That was the end of Genesis. The only exception is the brilliant Duke's Travel's/Duke's End.

Even the cover was utterly pathetic! Where's Paul Whitehead or Armando Gallo when you need them?



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I like the cover, its quirkey and cute!
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Points: 623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 21:47

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I like the cover, its quirkey and cute!

Please, my dear Snow Dog, your posts to date have always been intelligent and eloquent, the dignified work of an elegant Old World gentleman from a lineage of centuries of impeccable breeding.

If I may, I implore you to employ the edit mode on the above quote to safeguard your honor, respect and dignity.

With sincere regards,

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Yeah, I need a pill that big to recover from Duke.
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Points: 297 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:08
"Well good news! It's a suppository!" - The Professor, Futurama.

:D

Anyways, I happen to like Duke - well, more over, the bookending suites - Behind The Lines/Duchess/Guide Vocal and the Duke songs at the end. Better material on Duke than Abacab, so by comparison, IMO, it's a good album. Where as Duke has about 5-6 really good tracks, Abacab has about 3, and 2 more which were B-Side instrumentals. Not bad albums, IMO, just not what a lot of people wanted after Hackett left.

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Originally posted by The Letter M The Letter M wrote:

"Well good news! It's a suppository!" - The Professor, Futurama.

-Marc.


I'm not kidding, I was just about to use that quote.
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I like the beginning and ending suites too.  Actually though I love the song Heathaze.  Always struck a chord for me.
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well, takes a deep breath ... I quite like Duke

(runs to take cover)
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Points: 623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2005 at 22:34

OK, Man of Our Times is pretty good (in addition to the end suite)

But I will yield no further concessions.



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Just for you Kirklott:

I'm going to hide away now...
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Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Just for you Kirklott:

I'm going to hide away now...

MINE EYES - ARRGGHH!



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Heh -- good to see people not talking themselves too seriously.

I like Duke, but it's not up to snuff compared with Genesis' earlier
material. Beats the heck out of anything that followed, however.
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Duke!  I love Duke!  My favorite album of the 1980's.

It's as good as pop-prog gets. 

The only bad songs are Please Don't Ask and Misunderstanding

The Duke Suite is fantastic, start to finish.
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Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

The only bad songs are Please Don't Ask and Misunderstanding

Please Don't Ask - ARGGHHH! I forgot about that song!!! That's even worse than any Trevor Rabin love song! Must...remain calm...take medication...deep breaths...think happy thoughts...Close to the Edge...Brain Salad Surgery...Seconds Out....ah, I'm feeling better...
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Points: 233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 01:44

Basically, everything after "Wind and Wuthering" (which had its good parts and its cheesy, intolerable parts) made me want to rip my hair out. When Hackett left, the fecal matter hit the fan.

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Most of Duke I like.Man Of Our Times is seriously good as is Behind The Lines,Duchess,Dukes Travels and Duke's End.Lots of good stuff ,enough to be a 3-4 star prog album.Interestingly the concept of the album fits in with Genesis changing attitudes to music.They had started to go a bit more 'commercial' and the mood of the record indicates the future direction.If you listen to the lyrics its really about the end of Genesis as a prog band.They more or less divorced themselves from prog on the albums that followed.But Duke is still decent.
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Points: 521 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2005 at 03:40

hey, kirklott, if we can cordially agree to disagree about  italian vocals & prog in that other thread ... then maybe we can shake hands on this one. eh? That's what good friends do ... what d'you say old chap?  I like Duke and you don't like dark swedish stuff or italian vox ... so lets  call it quits ....

btw I couldn't help noticing your penchant for ... skulls ... .  Actually I rather enjoyed the one with the rabbit. Is it yours? ... the rabbit, I mean .. not the ... oh, never mind .

 



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