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    Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:16
Though I'm absolutely certain that this is dead in the water before it begins because overhauling the ratings system would be an absolute nightmare, I've always felt five stars (where zero is not an option) is an inadequate spectrum. As I see it, we need these six points to fully express a range of opinions:
 
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4 Good
3 Average
2 Below Average
1 Terrible
 
I don't think it can be simplified below these six without actually compromising the range of verdicts available. I think what some people might say is "well, let's conflate 2 and 1 because the difference doesn't matter, you're saying don't buy the album both ways" and then we end up with a five point system. But in practice what actually happens is people conflate 4 and 5, resulting in the "If I like it a lot, it's a 5" problem that plagues the ratings on PA and pushes them way up. (In many years, the very worst album is a 3.5 or 3.6 or so. Come on, the worst album of the year gets 7/10? No. We're rating too high.)
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Points: 12294 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:18
Originally posted by Me Me wrote:

I'm absolutely certain that this is dead in the water before it begins because overhauling the ratings system would be an absolute nightmare.
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Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by Me Me wrote:

I'm absolutely certain that this is dead in the water before it begins because overhauling the ratings system would be an absolute nightmare.
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But whether it would ever be done or not, do you think I'm right? That's what really important. People saying I'm right.
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Points: 8818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:41
I find the 5 star system we have here, with the definitions provided, to be quite adequate. Each rating has a very specific meaning which I find to be a lot more meaningful than just a number like 4/10. Your system has "average" and "good" as two specific ratings but the difference between them isn't quite as clear. I think yours would be improved by removing the average - leaving us with a 5 stars. That's just my thoughts, though.
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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 20:42
personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal


I don't say that.
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal

If the half star meanings where clearly defined, maybe. 
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I notice that a huge number of reviews here have a person adding a half to the rating in the review itself which means they really want to have halves.

 
What do you mean you can't see a difference between average and good? Average means plain/indifferent, good means you like it.
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Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

But whether it would ever be done or not, do you think I'm right?

No.
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Points: 12294 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 22:48
Honestly, don't change it.

A different scale will just bring a different set of complaints.
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Points: 65681 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 00:45
I can see an extra star some day, or a 0 star .. in fact I vaguely recall PA having a zero-star option back about 4 years ago







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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 02:53
Indeed we did Atavachron, the 0 stars option was removed some time ago.
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Points: 3281 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 03:38
Why?
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 03:44
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: These go to eleven.
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Points: 3281 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 04:13
Yes that's exactly the same as what I said.
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 06:08
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal
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Points: 1588 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 07:43
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

personally, I think current 5-star system with half stars (which is what everyone says) would be ideal

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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 07:52
I don't think anybody suggesting the "new" rating system here has ever visited MMA.
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