the 10000 days myth - tool

good morning,

i just registered here for only this one reason.

i recently stumbled upon this thread via google:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=23344&FID=3

of course i knew about that myth before that... but didnt really know how to interprete it.

and to make myself clear i am a tool fan and dont want to destroy your myth, but....

either i didnt understand what the thread wanted to tell me or it is just untrue. did i get it right to put all 3 song over each other and play them simultaniously? if so its not right! not to say its bulls......

what i did though is put wings pt1 and vigniti tres over each other and to me this totally fits. it would also fit the message of the album: two become one. see the stereoscope thing... two images become one 3d image.

 i also would interprete too much into the artwork of the cover. this is by alex grey and was actually painted long before 10000days was released (i think, not sure about that).

use audacity to put wings p1 and vignity tres over each other and listen to the whole thing. you might find that my suggestion "can" be true. not saying it is definetely true, but it definetely makes more sense then putting 3 audio lines over each other.

thanks.


Edited by alberthofmann - October 01 2010 at 00:39

Tool fans. 

This has been around before. There's a long thread about it somewhere.

i forgot to mention one other thing.

put on headphones, crank up the volume to max and listen to the very end of 10000days(wings pt2) and the beginning of the pot.

if you have a decent software player or a good cd player and there is absolutely no gap between the two songs (just like in parabol and parabola) you will hear that the sound that starts at ~11:00 in wings pt2 (moves from left to right ear) is also noticable at the very beginning of the pot. there is a absolute seamless transision. this sound that "circles" around your ears also is at the beginning of wings pt1. but i dont have a clue what to do with that.

the transition from wings pt1 and pt2 on the other hand is not seamless at all.

damn tool. why do i have to brake my head about that stuff? i need to go to bed, late here...

Wait what's the myth?  I thought the only myth was that 10,000 Days is a prog album

I was very glad when I heard this album by first time, I really liked too much because this album has futurist and experimental features, also shows music rules respect; I wish an upcoming album and Tool deserves more success.

god. insane what these two songs do to me. almost midnight here and i wanted to go to bed when it struck me.

i just listened to wings pt1 because its a good song to go to sleep to. then i realized the obvious.

it was so obvious its embarrassing.

they dont really fit over each other. i tried to put both audio lines over each other. did the same with viginiti tres, but it all sounds messed up. this evening i installed audacity to try it again...

of course the end of wings pt1 and pt2 sound absolutely the same.  to be honest with you i never really realised until now and i listen to that album every day, well almost every day...

so. you can actually put wings pt1 at the end to pt2 so both songs end at the same time. it definetely fits. but its not perfect. you hear that this is manufactured by hand and no computer overlay trick whatsoever. two totally different songs that become one at the end.

almost at the end when danny starts the hard drums everything fits together. so. the songs are not supposed to be played together, but they become one. fascinating.

yes, i know, im a fanboy. and im proud of it. :D

next riddle to solve: viginiti tres. i know its latain for 23...

Tool is as successful as a band doing the kind of music they do as it gets. Actually I wish they were less popular, this way we wouldn't have so many people bashing their music just because they can't understand it. By the way, 10,000 was just a good album, and I'm still waiting for the next Lateralus.