The JohnPaulGeorgeRingo-factor in progbands

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   The Beatles, a winning combination of four specific personalities in one band.
I see in Transatlantic a bit of the same,

Paul: Neal Morse
John: Roine Stolt
George: Pete Trewavas
Ringo: Mike Portnoy

and in Pink Floyd,
Paul: David Gilmour
John: Roger Waters
George: Rick Wright
Ringo: Nick Mason

Maybe most of you think that I'm a bit silly here, but why not play along and suggest other bands as well? You don't have to match members by instrument - only the personalities.
Bands with more or less than 4 members can also be included. 

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Dr.No Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 19 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5	Topic: The JohnPaulGeorgeRingo-factor in progbands Posted: September 30 2010 at 13:49
	The Beatles, a winning combination of four specific personalities in one band. I see in Transatlantic a bit of the same, Paul: Neal Morse John: Roine Stolt George: Pete Trewavas Ringo: Mike Portnoy and in Pink Floyd, Paul: David Gilmour John: Roger Waters George: Rick Wright Ringo: Nick Mason Maybe most of you think that I'm a bit silly here, but why not play along and suggest other bands as well? You don't have to match members by instrument - only the personalities. Bands with more or less than 4 members can also be included.

moshkito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18061	Posted: September 30 2010 at 14:00
	Hi, Hmmm ... not sure about that. Both the Beatles and Pink Floyd had a lot more to do with the history of music and the time and reverberated off that ... a lot more than Transatlantic ever will, or any of their musicians. I'm not sure that Transatlantic can make themselves relevant like the other two did or get closer to the art scenes that those two did ... Transatlantic is not about an art scene or movement ... it's about 4 ego's ... that seem to play together well. I think it was a different time and place and experience. If all Transatlantic can do is just songs for the radio to fill out an album, I would imagine that it will come to an end soon ... you have to make music "for yourself" first, even though somewhere along the way there is a thought or two ... it has to sell and make it, or it's not gonna happen anymore. I really think, that today, 2010 that is ... there is more pressure on musicians to make money and sell than there is to concentrate on the music and quality of the music. It just seems to be the normal rock format ... 4 players with each one having a role ... and that is the "style" that our ears are programmed for and used to ... more than likely you would not listen to this band if it had an extra guitar and no drums ... or the extra guitar and no keyboards at all !! In the end, it is not the number of players that matters ... it is the result of their work. And of course, the usual PR that makes you think that something is good! Edited by moshkito - September 30 2010 at 14:03
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Dr.No Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: January 19 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5	Posted: September 30 2010 at 14:21
	whou....moshkito! This isn't what I meant at all. You take it way too seriously.....It's just a bit of fun! But maybe I wasn't clear enough. I see Paul as a very, very skilled composer but only John could bring Beatles to a whole new dimension with his off-the-wall creativity. George brought his own small pearls to the band (Something etc.) but was somehow trapped between two giants. And finally Ringo, the jester, creative in his own way. I see Neal, Roine, Pete and Mike in the same way. Well, of course not completely 100% but pretty close. My point being, if you are a musician and feel a bit Paul-like and want to start a band, then maybe you should try to find your own John, George and Ringo. It seems a band with these personalities might have a good chance to be succesful.

ferush Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 363	Posted: October 08 2010 at 20:13
	Part of their succesful was the mastery of all the crew out of the group in addition of Martin and Brian; respecting the fab4 they were under continuing positive internal pressure, always concentrated for the band and producing every album with different sound each time. At 1962 the music we know now didn't exist, if prog is innovation the fab4 is a prog band... they were and they are the first and the best. By the way, a new fab4 band is urgently needed for a new musical revolution.