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After The Fire was a popular band from England in the 1970s who were bridging both the Christian and the secular market with their music. They also had quite a big hit single with Der Kommissar. Their first album was quite ELP/Genesis inspired. I caught up with Peter Banks for the After The Fire story. What are you up to these days and how is life in Essex, England these days ? Once 'Life in the City' finished when I moved out into the country I
created a commercial studio with which I modified my musical career
to work on advert and film music. This slipped sideways into
providing computers to other musicians and that went on to become
'The Maldon Computer Company'. The company also slipped sideways into
all things Internet and I have maintained a foot in that area in the
latest incarnation 'Datapartners Internet' (www.datapartners.co.uk)
which create online gizmos. I now enjoy life on the coast both
outside on the beach and in my studio!
How is it to be mistaken for the ex Yes guitarist, like I did when I
got your email ?
It happens! During my time with After The Fire I added Memory as a
stage name and I was known as Memory Banks or Peter Memory Banks. I
have spoken to one of the musicians in Peter Brock Banks' band and we
are toying with the idea of a photo session of both of us together to
finally lay that myth to rest. Remember to send us a copy ! When was After The Fire set up, by whom and how was your formative
years ?
![]() Please tell us more about your first self released album Signs Of
Change from 1977.
This is covered in the sleeve notes
This album was an ELP/Yes/Genesis inspired album. But you changed
over to a more pop orientated band when you signed on CBS and
released your second album Laser Love in 1979. Why ?
Because we didn't get signed and as punk was exploding into the world
playing what was to become know as Prog Rock was out of date.
![]() Please tell us more about this album.
When we released Signs of Change we suddenly found we were able to
write short pieces which were actually punchy commercial songs, more
like singles than epic album tracks. Laser Love is a collection of
the songs we were playing live out on the road at the time. Once we
made the change to the new material we were signed really quickly so
the strategy worked.
Please tells us more about the 80-f album from 1980. The style was
more pop again ?
We had two attempts at recording this album and we were gutted when
we were taken to one side and told our finished album was not good
enough. A different produced, Mack, who was working with Queen and
ELO, was called in, we auditioned for a new drummer, appointed Pete
King, wrote some extra songs and re-recorded the drums.
And the Batteries Not Included album from 1982. Stylewise how would
you describe this album?
It was varied and experimental in the classic third album sense. We
wanted to move forward and critics said it was our best ever. You also had a top ten hit with the single called Der Kommissar. It
was mo less than an English version of Falco's song of the same name.
Please tell us more about this experience.
We recorded Batteries Not Included in Munich, South Germany and so
landed up spending a lot of time in Germany. At the time there was a
music scene called Neue Deutsche Welle
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neue_Deutsche_Welle
) which translated literally means New German Wave (or German New
Wave) which had the form of punk or power pop but was sung in German
and even local German regional dialects. It had a real excitement and
breath of fresh air about it. I heard Falco's original when it was
little known and presented a way of doing a cover to the guys in ATF
and they loved it... the rest is history!
![]() Please tell us more about the Der Kommissar compilation album from
1982.
This was a selection originally put together in Sweden where Der
Kommissar became a hit in 1982 and they wanted an album with the
single on so put together a 'best of'. This model was copied in other
territories and there are a number of different versions out there.
That album was later re-released in 2005 with some extra tracks.
Please tell us more about this release.
We had no idea there were plans for this at all until it was all
pretty much decided. However, I was consulted on the sleeve notes and
choice of tracks.
What was your experiences with CBS ?
We were very green at the time, only Pete King had signed to a major
label before, so it was a big learning curve. Looking back we had
huge support from many of the guys there, especially the then head of
A & R Muff Winwood who produced some of the tracks on Der
Kommissar.
Wikipedia, which helped me out of a great pickle because my usual
reliable reference source is very misleading and I almost sent you a
Fawlty Towers esque interview sheet, has references to the Live at
Greenbelt, AT2F and Radio Sessions 1979981 albums. Please tell us
more about these albums.
These are all albums that have been released on Angel Air records
since the band got going again in 2004. The Live at Greenbelt was
originally a video of us playing our return gig at Greenbelt 2004.
This was imagined as a one-off reunion gig and so was filmed for
posterity. We released a DVD on our own Roughmix label and Angel Air
licensed it and produced a soundtrack CD with a couple of bonus
tracks.
AT2F
is a collection of high quality demos the band recorded in 1982 in
readiness for the next ATF album which never happened and the Radio
Sessions is a suite of live In Concert radio shows we recorded for
the BBC.
You headlined the Greenbelt festival several times. For those who
don't know; this is a Christian music festival and undeniable the
best dating event for young Christian boys and girls. The church
(wedding) bells are annually getting a thorough workout after this
festival and the tens of other copycat festivals around the world.
And long may this continue.
Existing
well below the media and newspapers radar; these festivals are the
biggest music events in the world right now.
How
was it to headline those festivals ?
Despite what you say in your question Greenbelt is totally unique
amongst festivals with a Christian perspective. It has a huge gamut
of contributors ranging from the Archbishop of Canterbury through to
artistes like Billy Bragg who calls himself agnostic yet has huge
sympathy for the political views that your average, thinking
Greenbelt attendee.
We
headlined it a few times, most notably in 1979 when we had achieved
chart success in the UK. Read more on Julian's excellent history
here: http://friends.afterthefire.co.uk/contents.htm
GB79
page here: http://friends.afterthefire.co.uk/dits-ch14.htm
.......but you also sold out Marquee Club and people were quing
around the block. Please tell us more about this too.
You are playing the Devil's music, some preachers in the USA is
telling us. Do you ?
This is a HUGE question which I would love to spend some time
answering! However, to give an idea I would say it does not have a
'Yes or No' answer but a much more interwoven response. I have
covered some of this on my blog: http://banksyboy.blogspot.com/
and specifically here:
Why did ATF break up ?
It was a complicated set of circumstances that meant we would pretty
much permanently be in debt to CBS. Our management (Harvey Goldsmith)
sought and secured a deal with Atlantic for North America that would
have restored some money into the pot and put us on a better footing.
Sadly CBS released Der Kommissar in Canada before the deal was signed
and that effectively scuppered it. We had been on the road from the
70s and were, frankly, worn out with no prospect of earning more than
the tiny retainer of £ 40 a week!
You had a twenty-one year break. How did you fill your time without
ATF ?
Loads of commercial stuff as well as enjoying becoming a father!
You reformed in 2004. Please tell us why and how this come about.
An enthusiastic follower of ATF organised a Fan Convention and as
singer Andy Piercy could not attend I had the idea of having a
Karaoke style session where we would play and some of our fans could
pick songs and sing along! It worked really well. After that we were
asked to play at Greenbelt 2004, as above, and then we were asked to
play more...
What is the plans for ATF ?
We have been playing an annual Autumn tour of a handful of dates for
the last 3 years and we are already booked up for 2010 and some stuff
in 2011.
Just to wrap this interview up; do you have any regrets in your music
career ?
Just some minor ones! We had a fantastic time, not without many
trials and tribulations, so my only regret is really not being aware
of how well we were doing at the time and maybe should have been a
bit more bold about our achievements.
What is your five alltime favourite albums ?
Hard
one this, as I have faves for a time and love re-discovering CDs I
haven't listened to for a while! I have SO many faves... here is a
handful:
Beatles:
Rubber Soul
ELP:
Pictures at an Exhibition
Mark
Knopfler: Sailing to Philadelphia
Imogen
Heap: Speak for Yourself
Peter
Gabriel: Scratch my Back
Anything you want to add to this interview ?
A:
I would like to put some of this up as a resource on the ATF website
for other writers to download as it has taken me AGES to write all
this up! So am asking your permission too?! Yes, we would active encourage everyone interviewed to carry copies of PA interviews on their websites/blogs, but please include both the name of the interviewer and PA with link as source. A big thank you to Peter Banks. After The Fire's PA profile can be found here and Peter Banks blog is highly recommended too.
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