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Logos 
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:26 |
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What's your favourite Sabbath album? And do you prefer the Ozzy-era or
the Dio-era (which was quite short but produced some great music)? Well
ok, I guess the latter question was really silly as most people will
naturally prefer the Ozzy-era albums, since they're the greatest heavy
metal abums ever!!
My top 5 is probably something like this..
1. Paranoid
2. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
3. Master of Reality
4. Black Sabbath
5. Heaven and Hell
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Snow Dog
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:39 |
- Technical Ecstasy
- Sabotage
- Vol IV
- Black sabbath
- Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 14:51 |
"Sabotage". Has tho be their most progressive album too. "Megalomania" and "The writ" are excellent prog metal.
Didn't Rick Wakeman play on "Sabbath bloody sabbath" if I remember correctly?
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Jared
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 16:29 |
I've always considered Ozzy & Dio to be completely different, and consequently, the Sabs were really two different bands which can't easily be compared. I heard a fabulous Fates Warning cover of 'Sign of the Southern Cross' a couple of days ago, which reminded me how much I used to enjoy that track when I was younger. Favourite Ozzy Album? Possibly Masters of Reality.... ... 'do you want to see the Pope on the end of a rope, do you think he's a fool?'
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Grimm
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Posted: May 12 2005 at 22:58 |
I'm more a fan of the Dio Sabbath, which has been accused of releasing two good but uninspiring albums. I think they were a much tighter band with Dio, and had Tony and Ron gotten along a little better this lineup could have been as big as they were with Ozzy.
1) Mob Rules
2) Black Sabbath
3) Heaven and Hell
4) Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
5) Sabotage
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Logos
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 00:16 |
 Easy Livin wrote:
Didn't Rick Wakeman play on "Sabbath bloody sabbath" if I remember correctly? |
Yes, in "Sabbra Cadabra".
But Tony Iommi played lots of keyboards himself, even the good old mellotron!
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Ben2112
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 00:19 |
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I love Sabbath!
My favorite album has always been the debut. I love the previously unheard-of notion of transforming good old blue based rock into something infinitely evil & sinister. Wicked World rocks!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 03:33 |
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Curiously, nobody has mentioned the Ian Gillan lineup.
Sabbath are one of my favorite all time bands, one I can go back to time after time, without finding them irritating.
In my humble opinion, Tony Iommi is one of the most under-rated guitarists in rock music - this isn't to say he's a virtuoso, far from it, but as a blues based heavy metal guitarist, he influenced the sound of scores of bands over the years, and came up with some of the most memorable riffs these jaded ears have ever heard.
Personal favorites...?
'The Writ'
'NIB'
'Planet Caravan'*
'Die Young' (or, as we used to say in the Heavy Metal clubs - "Angus Young's Welsh cousin", hur, hur, hur)
...and the absolutely stonking:
'Into The Void'
*I'm currently looking into a way of mixing 'Planet Caravan' into a chill-out set - I think it'll work...
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PROGMAN
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 09:31 |
I am also a keen Black Sabbath listener:
1. Paranoid
2. Black Sabbath
3. Sabotage
4. Technical Ecstasy
5. Master of Reality
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James Lee
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Posted: May 13 2005 at 11:00 |
1) Master of Reality, 2) Paranoid, and 3) Black Sabbath.
That's all...I don't dislike the later Ozzy-led albums or the Gillian and RJD stuff, but nothing after MoR ever really got me excited the way those first three albums did.
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Arsillus
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Posted: May 14 2005 at 10:26 |
In no particular order...
Master Of Reality
Paranoid
Dehumanizer
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Black Sabbath
I like the Ozzy-era Sabbath, but Dio-ero produced some pretty cool stuff too. So it's a tie.
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Posted: May 14 2005 at 11:26 |
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1. Paranoid
2. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
3. Master of Reality
4. Sabotage
5. Black Sabbath
I enjoyed almost everything the Ozzy line-up gave us, even Technical
Ectasy and the majority of Never Say Die, but I do think the Dio era
Sabbath years are overrated ... inferior to both Ozzy era Sabbath and
Dio era Rainbow methinks ...
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"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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felixxx
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Posted: May 14 2005 at 15:08 |
SABOTAGE 
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 11:48 |
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath > Sabotage > Born Again > Mob Rules > Master Of Reality
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 15:28 |
Gillan + Sabbath was a bit of a joke wasn't it? Especially with the replica Stonehenge and "Smoke on the Water"... what were they thinking? 
I have to say that "Heaven and Hell" is my all-time Sabbath favourite - RJD has one of the best voices in all of rockdom, even if the little Elf does keep singing about bl**dy Rainbows all the time! "Turn Up The Night" just knocked me sideways when I first heard it - what a powerful riff!
Following that is "Paranoid" (for every track except the title...), "Black Sabbath", then "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", then "Master...".
I still don't like "Technical Ecstasy", and "Mob Rules" sounds too much like more of the same after "Heaven and Hell". "Vol 4" I can generally take or leave.
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AngelRat
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Posted: May 18 2005 at 16:10 |
Everything up 'til 'Sabotage'.
I'm not a big fan of Dio's voice, although the 2 albums with him are very strong. Some of the Tony Martin stuff is pretty good too (like 'Headless Cross'), but after all I prefer the first 6 albums.
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Posted: May 19 2005 at 16:05 |
My top 5 are in this order:
1.Sabotage
2.Between Heaven And Hell
3.Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
4.Master Of Reality
5.Paranoid
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Man Erg
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Posted: May 20 2005 at 06:51 |
1.Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (Spiral Architect,SBS,Looking for Today - Wakeman on synth.Excellent)
=2.Vol 4 (Wheels of Confusion,Snowblind - Mellotrons!)
=2.Paranoid (War Pigs,Iron Man,Paranoid but incs Rat Salad  )
4.Sabotage (Megalomania,Hole in the Sky,The Writ.Production maybe a bit too clean?)
5.Black Sabbath (Behind the Wall of Sleep,Warning,NIB - Early,bluesier days.Finding their sound,)
6.Masters of Reality (Children of the Grave,Into the Void,Sweet Leaf - Let down by poor production)
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Intruder
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Posted: May 20 2005 at 07:27 |
Can only listen to the first three LPs....after that the formula crumbled and the band, esp. Oz, began their careers of self-parodists (is that even a word?).
Love that "Sweet Leaf"!
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: May 20 2005 at 08:17 |
Paranoid and the debut are definitely my fave. Other albums do not allow so much instrumental interplay because of shorter song structures.
Heaven and Hell is also a classic. (enjoyed Live Evil with Dio doing the Ozzy era classics)
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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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