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The Truth 
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:44 |
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This came across my mind a while back but I felt I should post it. Bob Dylan lyrics have influenced a good number of prog artists and his folk rock era sounds almost like Roger Waters. Would you consider this era to possibly be proto-prog? Albums in era are: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde.
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 10:56 |
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Hmmm I'm not sure.I'll be really interested to see what other people think.He his certainly one of the most influential artists in music.
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 11:58 |
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Influential for sure.
But calling him (Proto) Progressive? That would be rather silly.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 12:04 |
 CPicard wrote:
Influential for sure.
But calling him (Proto) Progressive? That would be rather silly.
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 12:09 |
Man With Hat wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Influential for sure.But calling him (Proto) Progressive? That would be rather silly. |
Agreed. |
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 12:43 |
The Antique wrote:
Man With Hat wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Influential for sure.But calling him (Proto) Progressive? That would be rather silly. |
Agreed. |
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 12:56 |
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[Wanna buy some mandies, Bob?]
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 13:06 |
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 13:17 |
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What the hell planet do you live on to think Bob Dylan is prog?
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 13:24 |
Desolation Row is proto-prog, but only because of its length.
He influenced many prog folk acts, most notably the Strawbs - Cousins sounds very Dylan-like.
And The Nice managed to turn some of his songs into prog. So did ELP.
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The Truth
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 13:44 |
J-Man wrote:
What the hell planet do you live on to think Bob Dylan is prog? |
I don't think he's prog I was wondering if people think his folk rock era could be proto-prog
Edited by The Truth - August 20 2009 at 13:47
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 22:12 |
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I thought you were kidding!
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 22:14 |
The Truth wrote:
This came across my mind a while back but I felt I should post it. Bob Dylan lyrics have influenced a good number of prog artists and his folk rock era sounds almost like Roger Waters. Would you consider this era to possibly be proto-prog? Albums in era are: Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, and Blonde on Blonde. |
Chuck Berry and Elvis also influenced many prog artists, but they aren't coming in either
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - August 20 2009 at 22:14
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 22:42 |
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 22:49 |
Who knows who posted the one yes!
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Posted: August 20 2009 at 23:08 |
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 01:10 |
Just had a quick peruse of the Dylan Collection and I really cannot find anything prog but does it matter it his Bobness. Folk,Rock,Blues.Country with the odd bit of Gospel. Have to say though they are some of the components of prog. 
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 08:53 |
CPicard wrote:
Influential for sure.
But calling him (Proto) Progressive? That would be rather silly.
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Not so fast my impudent little friend.
Proto-prog definition:
"These bands normally were formed and released albums before Progressive Rock had completely developed...
The common elements in all these bands is that they developed one or more elements of Prog, and even when not completely defined as part of the genre, they are without any doubt, an important stage in the evolution of Progressive Rock....
Some of these bands evolved and turned into 100% Prog, while others simply choose another path, but their importance and contribution in the formative period of Prog can't be denied, for that reason no Prog site can ignore them."
All these bands/albums were most certainly influential to at least two generations of prog musicians, but there's no way anyone could make a reasonable argument that they are progressive music the way most people understand that term to mean (and none of these groups went on to become known as progressive artists either). Certainly they fit the definition above though:
And I would argue anyone who has studied much history of modern music knows that these two albums were hugely influential on scores of progressive folk, psych and even pop (aka the Beatles) artists.
I'm not sure this is so far-fetched a suggestion, and maybe shouldn't be dismissed so quickly and casually.
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 09:50 |
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^ There's no doubt in my mind that Bob Dylan was somewhat influential
to the development of progressive rock, but c'mon - he's Bob Dylan. One
of the most influential musicians of all times, you'd be hard-pressed
to find a genre (out of those emerged in the 70's) that he hasn't
influenced (at least) undirectly. He didn't specifically influence prog, he influenced everything around him.
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Posted: August 21 2009 at 10:00 |
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Absolutely not, but that doesn't diminish his stature as one of the top 5 musical figures of the century.
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