Cem Karaca (Turkish progressive master)

in this band they have used the tradational anatolian folk songs like "Hudey" "Karacoğlan" "Oy babo"  with beatnic melodies ...  bur he has started to make up his own songs like "resmideki gözyaşları" "bu son olsun" "zeyno"

and he and his band have played a lot of songs with FREDDY KLEIN ORCHESTRA  so we can named some songs semphonic beatnic rock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c0WYebOv5g (Ayrılık Günümüz)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHtyfK0KC0c (İstanbulu Dinliyorum)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mmYlnwc7oM (karacoğlan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa9uhGiG860 (zeyno)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jep3rmcjiLc (resimdeki gözyaşları) {tears on the photograph} (there is a english version of it named "tears" i will upload it to youtube soon)


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ENGLİSH LYRİCS OF "RESİMDEKİ GÖZYAŞLARI"  {tears on the photograph}

maybe you are looking for a alleviation from the days that were past, from the life
look at my photograph, see the tears that were run out..

now you have got only a little photograph from me
it cant answer you but it can cry for your alone

and i have got only a few memory in my palm
you leave me alone and gone

maybe you are looking for a alleviation from the days that were past, from the life
look at my photograph

you are not alone, i know where you are
it might make you sad, if you are living and see this

maybe you are looking for a alleviation from the days that were past, from the life
look at my photograph, see the tears that were run out..

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that you see this band was not using the progressive sound yet... and otherwise they didnt use rock sound too sometimes... however he has won a lot of popularity in turkey but Cem Karaca was looking for more hard band to make real rock...he didnt want to make beatnic music so the Apaşlar band was demolished at the begining 1971...

Then he establish a new band called : CEM KARACA - KARDAŞLAR ( Cem Karaca and the brothers)

it was the begining of progressive folk sounds of Cem Karaca





Edited by Dervisan - February 02 2009 at 20:32

and now he has finished his transition period ... he hasnt done beatnic after "Dadaloğlu" and he started to do pure "Progressive Psychedelic Folk Rock" after this transition period (after "dadaloğlu") and Cem Karaca - Kardaşlar have started to make new songs ;



Edited by Dervisan - February 14 2009 at 11:50

Cem Karaka were proposed and rejected in 2006, though they can of course be considered again.

after Cem Karaca-Moğollar band, he has tried to establish a progressive band so he has establish DERVİSAN which is the best progressive band of Turkey (already the best rock band)

this band's member were really master of their instrument.. i want to tell you 3 musicians that i love from this band;

Ugur dikmen (keyboard) ; he was played in "assia minor mission" in norway and he has really graduate in scandinavia progressive.. and he has got really wonderful ability and i think he was better than a lot of keyboards that you know(for example ; emerson, i have got a lot of concert record so listen and see)

Oğuz Durukan (BASS) ; he was played in "assia minor mission" in norway and he has really graduate in scandinavia progressive..

Hüseyin Sultanoğlu (drum) ; he is my rock ikon... he has played in BUNALIMLAR which is the god of turkish psychedelic... he has the best drummer i have ever seen... and best rocker too...



in earlier Cem Karaca - DERVİSAN , there is a song that was played with KARDAŞLAR period.. "BEYAZ ATLI" it was the new prog version of this song... (there isnt any link about beyaz atlı, i will upload it to you tube soon) but the other song of 45 rpm' is "yiğitler"

"Yiğitler" is a tradational song and i think it was the worst song of Dervisan but Hüseyin Sultanoğlu(drummer) is wonderful in this song.. i listen it only for it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzz_7vIG-R4   (Yiğitler)

it was the earlier Cem Karaca - Dervisan

after this 45 rpm the biggest bomb of turkish rock music was explode ;

"TAMİRCİ ÇIRAĞI" (apprentice of repairman) it has droped like a bomb on turkey and it was really wonderful progressive  masterwork and this was the only begining...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGpYYyGOkI     (Tamirci çırağı)

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ENGLİSH LYRİCS OF "TAMİRCİ ÇIRAĞI" (apprentice of repairman) -its really hard but i will try-

a fire has dropped in my heart
expectation is the bread of my heard, wish and wish
her hands are white,beautiful,nail polished
where can he hide his colluses of his palm?

she has come to repaired her car to our maintenance hall (repair shop)
i have shotted and falled in love when i saw her
the long skirts on her legs and curly hairs
my adept have called me "son, bring the set of tools"

i have read a subject like this in a novel
it was crystalline and expensive novel book
how can it i dont know but the girl love the boy
in a same situation, to the apprentice of repairman

i said my adept "let me, i wont dress my overalls"
i have draged my hairs in non smooth mirror
she will come  to take her car back
to make real this dream in novel maybe
the time was stopped
the world was stopped
she was comming in from the door
i have standed in bewilderment that i cant separate my eyes
i have opened the door,
i have opened she can come in
her eyebrows were rise up
and asked ; "WHO IS THIS VARGANT"

she has gone away with her car,
i have stifle in her cars exhaust gas
the tear drops on my eyes, i have rise up slowly
my adept have come and hit my back friendly
and said ; "YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS"
"YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS"
"YOU ARE A WORKER, BE A WORKER, DRESS YOUR OVERALLS"

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dont forget to listen this song when read the lyrics.. (video was from a movie "AĞIR ROMAN" i love this movie too )

After this song the turkish people are still feels like silly when they listen it because it s done everyday...

the other song of this 45 rpm is "nerdesin" it was an anatolian folk rock song ( i couldnt find a link about it) and it s not important beside "tamirci çırağı"






Edited by Dervisan - February 15 2009 at 18:42

"YOKSULLUK KADER OLAMAZ" LP include new songs all ..wonderful new songs... AND BELEİVE ME THİS ALBUM İS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUM İN PROGRESSİVE ROCK HİSTORY TOO...

1.Kerem Gibi (i couldnt find any link) :(
2.Bir Ögretmene Ağıt (i couldnt find any link)
3.Adiloş Bebe
4.İşçi Marşı (i couldnt find any link) :((((
5.Maden Ocağının Dibinde
6.Sevdan beni
7.Vay Kurban (i couldnt find any link)
8.Yoksulluk Kader Olamaz  (i couldnt find any link)

but i have upload the best progressive song of turkey and so you can listen it   it s; "SEVDAN BENİ" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcL4XFy1Or8 (SEVDAN BENİ)

it is a poem of Ahmed Arif who is a most famous political and modern poet of Turkey... this song is the best progressive song of turkey's musical history (i think like that)  i cant say anymore... only listen please...

.............silence


 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNjohQICps (maden ocağının dibinde) it s the another song from this LP but record is really bad in this link... i will upload it later again myself... or i will upload all this album... because you have to listen them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ApY4otxCq8&feature=PlayList&p=1FADA1F57B35850F&playnext=1&index=15   (Adiloş Bebe)   

it s another wonderful song from this album... it s a poem from Ahmed Arif too... so listen

i will upload other songs soon.. ok??


 

Edited by Dervisan - February 02 2009 at 20:39

SAFİNAZ    ( CEM KARACA -EDİRDAHAN) 1979


1.Safinaz  http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/h4svR_C8/cem_karacaedirdahan_safinazmp3/ 

2.Karam  http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/5b3cMmZU/cem_karacaedirdahan_karammp3/

3.Şeyh Bedrettin Destanı  http://www.imeem.com/progressiverock/music/9aGctWKI/cem_karacaedirdahan_eyh_bedrettin_destanmp3/                                           


to be continued...


Edited by Dervisan - February 16 2009 at 17:27

Sevdan Beni'nin harika bir parça olduğunu tartışmam; ama "en iyi" mi dersen, orada durup beklerim işte . Erkin'in Mesafeler'i var, Türkü'sü var; Barış'ın 2023'ü, 2024'ü, hatta 2025'i var, aha da bir Gönül Dağı var ; daha da aha yukarıda koca bi Safinaz var Moğollar'ı ve '70'lerin ilk yarısında (77'ye kadar diyelim) frıtına gibi parçalar yapan Edip Akbayram'ı da unutmayalım. Hatta zorlasam Sevenler Ağlarmış'ı (Haluk Levent'in sçıp sıvadığını değil, orijinal versiyonu ) bie bu listeye koyabilirim... Bence "en iyi" demek bizi aşar. hepsi ayrı güzel ...

(bu arada Tamirci Çırağı iyi şarkı olmakla birlikte, progressive mrogressive değildir bana göre... İhtarname, Parka, hatta Nem Kaldı bile çok daha progressive bence...)

iyi bari, albüm bazında Elektronik Türküler'le 2023'ün ve  Yeni Bir Gün'ün hakkını vermişsin gerçi ben Nedir Ne Değildir'i de eklerdim... Ama en iyi progressive grup deyince, Dervişan'a saygımız sonsuz olmakla birlikte, Kurtalan'ı tek geçerim... Bunun sırrı da, elemanlarının müzik yeteneklerinden çok Barış'ın multi-enstrümentalist ve düzenleme dehası olması, daha da önemlisi kendi tarzına uygun yetenekleri sağdan-soldan cımbızla çekip bir araya getiren müthiş bir yeteneğinin olması! Yani şunu demek istiyorum; progressive'lik büyük ölçüde "teknik"e bağlı bir olay olduğundan, Barış'ın '70'li yılları (yani Kurtalan'ın altın çağı) bu konuda her zaman önde olmuş... tabi bu "daha iyi" oldukları anlamına gelmiyor; Cem Karaca'yı da öne çıkaran başka faktörler var, hangisinin daha iyi olduğu kişiden kişiye değişir...

thanx bilek; i have forgot to talk about alex wiska... becuase i didnt talk about the members of any bands.. but it is true we have to talk about him becuase he was the musician that didnt know anything about turkish prog folk and he was a German street musician before Kardaşlar.. Cem Karaca have met with him in a street, saw his abiliti and bring him to turkey suddenly to his band Kardaşlar... it was really strange that act really.. but Cem Karaca didnt think false because he was really succesful in Kardaşlar...

yes it s true that we have to talk about a song that  Alex Wiska's  in Cem Karaca- Kardaşlar ; "Kalender"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCyeAuDEquw  (Kalender)  

after he has gone back to Germany he has continued to make progressive songs with anatolian instruments and melodies.. because he has really like this tradational sea... because anatolian tradational life is really feed with a big deep history... it s not about religion or nation or somethingelse... it s only the mind that is different than arabics or kurdishs or some other nations in middle east... everyone know that turkey is arabic.. it s really false , a dengerous false... turkish culture is really deep,friendly and honest than their culture...yes we have got some signs of arabic or grek or medeterrian or pers but really different from them ....  maybe bilek can tell this with his wonderful english .. its really hard to tell... (bilek; bi anlat yav pir sultanı,şeyh bedrettini,kazak abdalı,mevlanayı,yunus emreyi,şair kanuni sultanı ; arap zannediyolar bizi sinir oluyorum ya.. ) 

we have always discussed with friends that "Tamirci Çırağı" progressive song or not... i think it s really Arabesque song (with a lot of pain)  with its lyrics but it s progressive or not, the Dervisan band is really wonderful in this song... like the others...  so you are false about that i think...

we cant separate them because all members have always helped other bands when they made new album.. for example ; Murat Töz has played  in "2023" (with Kurtalan Ekspresi) and "Yoksulluk Kader Olamaz" (with Dervisan) - he should be the government artist because of this - or Fehiman Ugurdemir (feho muz ) played guitar with Dadaşlar and Edirdahan... Taner Öngür has worked with Moğollar and Dervisan...........ext...ext so all members were working in a lot of master bands..

like this; you know the guitar solo in "Dönence" (barış manço) you know that this guitar solo was made by Bahadır Akkuzu ... but he didnt (or he couldnt ) .. this solo was made and played by ; FEHİMAN UGURDEMİR...   

i will start to BARIŞ MANÇO biyography after Cem Karaca ...


Edited by Dervisan - February 04 2009 at 08:32

That's a problem that we anticipated.