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Dragon Phoenix
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Topic: Kate Bush Posted: April 17 2005 at 08:34 |
She has been talked about frequently, but I don't think she has ever been formally proposed for inclusion. I think most if not all of her albums fall under the category art rock. The B-side of the album Hounds of love ("The ninth wave") is IMHO one of the best prog rock tracks ever writen. |
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Miaugion
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 09:11 |
Yep, why not? If Gabriel, Zappa and Mr Bungle are listed in the Archives KaTe could be listed, too.
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You house proud town mouse
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lucas
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 18:06 |
I am with you guys, Kate was very original in her approach to music and deserves a mention.
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 19:37 |
yeah I agree. She's much like Peter Gabriel. So she might as well be in.
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28135 |
Posted: May 11 2005 at 16:15 |
I agree.Hounds of Love is a great album full of ideas.The Dreaming is excellent as well.Both are ''art/pop/prog'' IMO.
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: June 03 2005 at 16:46 |
Bump... Because a friend asked me to explain what prog rock was, so I referred him to the definition on this site ( http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp). And then I noticed in that story, a short excerpt:
So if she is included in this site's own definition of what prog is, then why is she not in the archives... |
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lucas
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 06:32 |
KB has already a place in two prog sites : Babyblaue prog reviews (a german site devoted to progressive musics) and NGEPR. So if Progarchives tends to be the most complete prog site, it has to include KB. BTW, I consider KB's work to be as prog as Peter Gabriel's one. |
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 06:41 |
She should definately be in, just listen to the wealth of ideas in "The Dreaming"
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 20:50 |
If Kate Bush is included in prog rock then i know for sure the world has gone mad. Just because she ain't mainstream dosen't mean she is prog.................art rock is for the students who think they are cool, but are at best, only twats. Get a grip people and live in the real world...for christs sake.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 04 2005 at 20:54 |
Strong words my friend, but I'd 'ave 'er! BTW isnt Art Rock( according to the Archives) a sub genre of Prog? |
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 03:39 |
Bump.
Can someone add her or would that lead to another Jon and Vangelis or Deep Purple reaction? Edited by Dragon Phoenix |
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Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
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valravennz
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 07:51 |
It is a pleasant surprise to see this thread. Here is one artist that should be included in the Archives. I think most of her albums have some prog element to them and I agree if she is included the Art catagory would fit the bill. Most prog albums IMO are "The Dreaming" "Never Forever" and "Hounds of Love".
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 06:10 |
If Kate Bush is added...then lets go the full hog and include Madonna, who's music has progressed from her early pop songs to art rock(ish). Well everyone else is being silly........Heathcliffe its me a kathy.......real prog.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 06:31 |
.....and where are the prog sensibilities in Madonnas music? Come on be serious for once!
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richardh
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 02:18 |
..but nowadays everything is prog if Queen can be included...and why not Madge as well? |
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Matti
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 03:37 |
This debate is a good example of the problem with the term 'prog'. The only reason I use it myself at all (when speaking about my music taste) is the fact that most of my favourite artists belong to the genre without a question. But if 'art rock' would not be a name of a sub-genre (quite hazy 'sub-genre', I bet), I'd prefer to talk about art rock instead of prog, implying by it: prog AND other rock(& pop) that is... well, arty and intelligent and original. Something that needs a certain concentration and gives 'artistic enjoyment' - excluding genres like 'prog metal' which serve quite different reasons and attitude for listening. Of course THAT line is as problematic as any other (and sorry for all the prog metal fans... ), but anyway, I see a huge difference between Kate Bush and Madonna!!!! Anyone who has heard more than Wuthering Heights and Running Up That Hill sees it. If Kate Bush ain't 'art rock' the way I spoke of it, who is? So, I would vote YES to Kate's inclusion. (Besides, she IS prog in many of her works.) PS II: I just found out the "storm in a water-glass" issue which I missed completely, not being here on weekends. But I don't exactly know would have I taken 'sides' on it anyway. Hopefully it all has sorted out. Edited by Matti |
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goose
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 07:42 |
What the f**k are you talking about?
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goose
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Posted: September 07 2005 at 07:43 |
I downloaded a video of Kate performing Comfortably Numb with Gilmour. Awful quality but the performance seems pretty good
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chopper
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Posted: September 08 2005 at 09:37 |
Good point there. If Mr Gabriel is here, then KB should be as well. And she's better looking than him. |
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Posted: September 10 2005 at 19:37 |
If ELP are here....then shouldn't their wives be added. That is as sensible a statement as the one up above. Quasimodo is better looking than Gabriel...add him too. |
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