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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Hello, while i was looking in the UH PA discography, it seems to me that KH should be in PA, i would like to know your opinions about this.
cheers
Alberto
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Tuzvihar ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 18 2005 Location: C. Schinesghe Status: Offline Points: 13536 |
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First: when you propose a band for inclusion, please post the relevant thread in this section - Suggest New Bands and Artists.
Second: what subgenre do you suggest him for? |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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A definite yes from me, probably as Prog Related where he would fit nicely.
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Sorry for posting in the wrong place About the subgenre it quite fits in the prog related place, like UH.
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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His first two albums are really prog oriented, Eager to Please has very progresive moments as Proud Words... |
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febus ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
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If the band URIAH HEEP is in, why not the solo albums of its leader!!
Hensley first 2 albums have some good prog leanings and should be included as EASY LIVIN wrote in prog-related.....i have seen bands listed here on PA with definitely less prog credentials than Ken.
Of course , what came after these 2 albums is another story!
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Why not?
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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If you mean his first two albums 'Proud words on a Dusty Shelf' and 'Eager to Please', I don't detect anything prog there at all. Sort of watered-down UH to my ears.
Not that I vote against him being included, there are others here that seem to qualify even less, but perhaps we could introduce a new category, something like:
As far away from Prog as possible?
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Yes, they have prog elements to be watch.
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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So, may i began the biography?
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Not yet, it needs to be approved by the team concerned. I'd suggest you contact the team where Uriah heep are located first (Heavy Prog) to see if they want to add him there. If they decline, send me a PM and I will ask the Admin Team to consider for Prog related.
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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Good move including him, I would say PR as opposed to HP
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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Honestly, guys, I have the following albums by him:
Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf Eager To Please Free Spirit Running Blind The Last Dance Please tell me, where is there anything even remotely Prog-related? This is all just middle-era watered down Uriah Heep quality material, with special emphasis on watered-down. Don't get me wrong, I can listen these albums for a bit of very simple melody background pleasure, but not anything more.
Sorry for coming on so strong, but including these types of albums here would feel like quite an embarrassment to me. Might as well include the Carpenters. |
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Good couple of albums were the first two (but , really, they are mid-Byron era sound). But his last album - Blood in the highway - is wonderful, I'm so glad that one of my fav composers and musicists can bring a so strong album in the autumn of his life (Wise man anyone?). But prog? well, I love UH byron and lawton era both, and shawn-era live isn't embarrasing. Wake the sleeper is a very good album, but UH never was a prog band, neither prog related. They are a heavy metal/hard rock band to my ears, and don't need to be blessed for the smart prog lovers to be one of the most wonderful group I've ever heard. So, a strong no is my two cents.
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Bach, Ma, Bros, Déia, Dante.
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Hope his added, I'm a long time Heeper and follow Ken's career since The Gods, he's an Icon of early Hard Prog.
But if not accepted, we already have Uriah Heep.
Iván
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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His solo work is less prog than UH, but I think it is still valid for a PR addition, because many solo careers of prog band members are listed on this basis: a generally not-prog work, but with some prog influences.
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Here's my update of the thread:
I send to David (Atavachron) some samples of the first album, he thinks that the are not HP.
Then in these days i strongly listen to the first album of him: Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf, and find very good prog.
1. When the Evening Comes, a good song with a carefully constructed guitar solo, that sounds amazing in headphones, and have the classic trademark sound of key albums of UH like Demons and Wizards and Magician's Birthday.
2. From Time to Time, a ver good and soulful acoustic number, the prog elements jump in the keyboards probably a moog sounding like and a somber, sinister mood of the song, hardly a pop number.
3.- King Without a Throne. a simple, accesible track that is great, Thain plays the bass like and powerful anchor and sound terrific, with a melody simple, but a elaborate bass playing, a sympatetic rythym.
4.- Rain. This is the Hensley version, than lacks the powerful vocal delivery from Byron but a good track that every heepsters knows well.
5.- Proud Words... a track that never make the inclusion on Demons and Wizards, a simple melody, but with little prog elements. Nevertheless a good track.
6.- Fortune.- probably the most prog track in the album, very reminiscent that UH was doing in albums like Sweet Freedom, Demons and Magician's, a great vocal delivery, a pounding bass line by Thain an very tigh but precise druming by Kerslake, a must, it starts with acoustic guitar but later delivery in a power semi epic track, the only fail is the time, i like that it would be longer.
I will listen the remaining tracks this day to update the post.
But believe me this is essential to be in PA.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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As requested by Alberto, referred to the Admin team for a final decision for PR (unless he's picked up by a prog genre team).
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Ok Bob, Thanks a lot.
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