Jean-Pierre Alarcen and Eden Rose

I have his 2 on 1 album as well as the Tableau no.2.Alarcen should be on PA big time.The first couple of albums showed him in an explorative mode,jazz,ambient,funky,latin,prog ect...all showed up on these releases while the Tableau no.2 is more symphonic music but not rock.More classical.

I wish he was in.

The Rock wrote: I have his 2 on 1 album. Alarcen should be on PA big time.The first couple of albums showed him in an explorative mode,jazz,ambient,funky,latin,prog ect... I wish he was in.

Not much more to add for me. Like Tableau no. 1 much more than the debut. On level with the best of the dark french symphonic releases from the same period. And that says a lot!

I'm surprised both are not in the Archives yet

 

 

YES for both.

That's the problem here Logan, in the Master List rally we did last year (May 19), we treated specifically the case of Jean Pierre Alarcen and even left a hint, but seems nobody reads this recommendations, I'm sure many oif the artists we recopmmended for other genres, are still in the Master List:

1. Clouds (UK/Scottia): Psyche
2. Cem Karaca (Turkey): Folk
3. Lake (UK): Maybe Prog Related
4. Mandragora (UK): Psyche
5. Mandragora (Argentina): Neo Prog
6. Blackfeather: Psyche
7. Help Yourself (UK): Folk
8. Nell James (USA): Folk or Prog Related
9. Sheshet: Art Rock or Fusion.

I'm almost sure the most part are still in the master list and very few checked what the Symphomnic Team researched, thanks God things are moving faster now with the new teams, but the info is there in  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38137&KW=Symphonic  to be checked.

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - March 27 2008 at 22:09

Ivan, I don't agree with that evaluation (and as Rocktopus notes, that 75 minutes comment is wrong -- does that mean the total time for the "boxset" release that included the debut and follow-up albums?)

I will mention Alarcen to the jazz/ rock fusion team if they missed this thread.  His eponymous debut is not pure jazz (jazz purists would take offence at that comment ;)), but I certainly agree with Rocktopus that jazz-rock fusion dominates.

For the debut:

1. Sambala is latinesque jazz with melodic, soft music.
2. Salut Besson is jazz-fusion (possibly with a slight Magma influence).
3. Mon Amour, Mon Amour is Western Academic music.
4. Nationale (my favourite track) is funky Zeuhlish Jazz-Fusion (reminiscent of Zao).
5. Soir - rather ambient jazz-fusion
6. Viex Garcon - Western Academic Music

Incidentally, Ivan. the JR Fusion tem (Alucard specifically) did add your list to their team thread, see page 3 and other pages, but Alarcen, at least, was not evaluated from what I've seen at that time (at least not that time -- but I believe it might have been earlier).

It is very hard to keep track of suggestions and bands under evaluation (new dynamic charts would help greatly -- where members could input suggested bands too -- as well as being able to use the search to search in body of topics).

EDIT: As for Eden Rose: I noticed there's a little problem with the link before (easily correctable when clicked), but here's another anyway: http://www.myspace.com/edenroseband



Edited by Logan - March 28 2008 at 14:09

Understood... Mea culpa with calling it jazz-fusion, I meant to say jazz-rock -- a slip.  I did notice that you recommended it to the Fusion team and did post about in their team thread earlier today.  Though I agree that the dominant characteristics make the debut suitable for fusion, I wanted to say that some pieces are not jazz at all, that I recall ("Mon Amour" and "Vieux Garcon" -- hey my French is good enough to notice my typo earlier).  I'm still unsure about where is best when one considers the first album as well, which is very different.  And the last being something rather different again.  Although the Zeuhl influence I mention is a kind of jazz-fusion (this time jazz-fusion on purpose) in itself, I do think those Zeuhlish qualities with some other qualities plus the first Tableau makes Alarcen considerable for Eclectic, in my view.  Fusion is quite a good fit based on the debut...

I'm sure things have changed since then as the doors have been opened wider to music that would not be traditionally thought of as "Prog" (and even prog with a little p).  Oh, and Bitches Brew absolutely should be here, but the whole discography has presented some problems.

Oh, and I can imagine the frustration with the cleaning sessions you've been involved with.  Amazing work you've done, though.


Edited by Logan - March 28 2008 at 23:08

I get all too easily frustrated... I had a struggle with a jar of pickled herring this morning, but it was worth it in the end. :)

Incidentally, I did add Alarcen to Eclectic (still have to edit and add some more info, but): ALARCEN, JEAN-PIERRE

EDIT: now that he's included, I notice two discussion topics on him from Suggest New Bands (I searched with all dates specified before since it's old enough that it wouldn't show up perhaps it just timed out as my computer runs slow -- search finds it now): DOH, that would have aided the discussion and maybe made the addition a little easier.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20450&FID=1




Edited by Logan - March 29 2008 at 19:12