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Zitro
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Topic: Do you think prog shows are too loud (in average) Posted: September 29 2007 at 17:09 |
in average, do you think progressive rock/metal concerts are too loud for your enjoyment? just right? not loud enough? vote
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darkmatter
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 17:25 |
Uhh I've only been to two shows (both Porcupine Tree) and the second was pretty loud, and it affected the sound of the music. I couldn't always determine what was being played, especially on two of the three encore songs (Halo and Mother and Child Divided, especially this one). But I won't vote because I need to go to more concerts....
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proghairfunk
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 18:46 |
They're loud, which is good, but dynamics are pulled off very well.
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Finnforest
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 19:10 |
Guys, they are all too loud, seriously. All rock concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love them too and its great fun to get blasted. I've seen hundreds of concerts. But please wear hearing protection especially if you're in a band too and practice loud. There is NOTHING cool about hearing loss. I have some loss and it sucks. What you do in your teens and 20s may decrease how much you can enjoy music later in life. Have fun, but protect your hearing. I sound like a father hen. I don't care. Hearing loss blows.
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Bj-1
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 19:21 |
I've been to several concerts and they are a little bit too loud in average, but not in the painful way luckily. I always bring ear protection with me though, just in case.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 19:35 |
"Rock" concerts are always way too loud, bad sounding, and most people seem to stand it. I don't know how they do.
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MajesterX
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 20:14 |
Finnforest wrote:
Guys, they are all too loud, seriously. All rock concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love them too and its great fun to get blasted. I've seen hundreds of concerts. But please wear hearing protection especially if you're in a band too and practice loud. There is NOTHING cool about hearing loss. I have some loss and it sucks. What you do in your teens and 20s may decrease how much you can enjoy music later in life. Have fun, but protect your hearing. I sound like a father hen. I don't care. Hearing loss blows.
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I agree completely. I wish it was easier to even the sound out by putting speakers around the audience but there is delay and other factors involved, making it extremely difficult to. Personally I don't like that rumbling of the diaphragm due to the music, It makes me want to leave most of the time. I always wear ear protection, but often times the sound waves just don't make me feel good when played that loud. I had the unfortunate first rock concert experience of seeing Dream Theater in which half of the first set I did not have earplugs. The sound was distorting in my ears, it was terrible. I can't imagine people that don't wear hearing protection. When I saw Rush this summer my ears rung for a few hours after the concert with hearing protection. I think the best story was when I heard my friend say that he was at a drum clinic and the band handed out earplugs. What I don't get is while that is a great idea, why don't they just turn it down?
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Zitro
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 21:29 |
While my Yes and Tool shows were not that annoyingly loud, the Florida '06 Flower King show (and that mediocre opening band that played for like 80 minutes) played WAY TOO LOUD, even on songs like End on a High Note, What if God is alone, etc.
I'm getting hearing protection next time.
Edited by Zitro - September 29 2007 at 21:31
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FruMp
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 23:49 |
I don't think I've ever seen a full blown prog band =/
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 23:53 |
MajesterX wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
Guys, they are all too loud, seriously. All rock concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love them too and its great fun to get blasted. I've seen hundreds of concerts. But please wear hearing protection especially if you're in a band too and practice loud. There is NOTHING cool about hearing loss. I have some loss and it sucks. What you do in your teens and 20s may decrease how much you can enjoy music later in life. Have fun, but protect your hearing. I sound like a father hen. I don't care. Hearing loss blows.
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I agree completely. I wish it was easier to even the sound out by putting speakers around the audience but there is delay and other factors involved, making it extremely difficult to.
Personally I don't like that rumbling of the diaphragm due to the music, It makes me want to leave most of the time. I always wear ear protection, but often times the sound waves just don't make me feel good when played that loud. I had the unfortunate first rock concert experience of seeing Dream Theater in which half of the first set I did not have earplugs. The sound was distorting in my ears, it was terrible. I can't imagine people that don't wear hearing protection. When I saw Rush this summer my ears rung for a few hours after the concert with hearing protection.
I think the best story was when I heard my friend say that he was at a drum clinic and the band handed out earplugs. What I don't get is while that is a great idea, why don't they just turn it down?
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BECAUSE DRUMS ARE F**KING LOUD AND DON'T HAVE KNOBS ON THEM.
Edited by rileydog22 - September 29 2007 at 23:54
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 00:20 |
My drums have nobs....but not the kind for volume, but for tightening
loosening stuff, but back to the initial topic I have to say that most concerts are DAT IZ BECAUSE PETRUCHI IS GAWD AMIRITE
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 00:25 |
Shakespeare wrote:
My drums have n00bs |
But Bill Bruford doesn't allow n00bs near his kit; that's why he left Yes.
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 00:26 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
My drums have n00bs |
But Bill Bruford doesn't allow n00bs near his kit; that's why he left Yes.
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No he left Yes because he decided to become a musician
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ProgBagel
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 00:35 |
Just a little too loud for my ears.
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Hatters
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 05:33 |
They are definitely too loud. I went to see Pelican and the support band were "These Arms Are Snakes" and they had the volume much too loud which meant that Pelican felt they had to have it that loud. My ears literally rang for 3 whole days. Russian Circles however had the volume just about right. I'm going to see Mono soon and they are supposed to play stupidly loud so I might take earplugs.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:40 |
The few concerts I've been to, no problem, just right.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:49 |
What did you say?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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chopper
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 08:54 |
I've been to some loud gigs in my time (e.g. Ted Nugent) but the prog gigs I've been to recently have been perfect. Actually, at the Anderson and Wakeman gig I went to, I was distracted by someone talking behind me and the guy next to me fell asleep!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 09:00 |
chopper wrote:
I've been to some loud gigs in my time (e.g. Ted Nugent) but the prog gigs I've been to recently have been perfect. Actually, at the Anderson and Wakeman gig I went to, I was distracted by someone talking behind me and the guy next to me fell asleep!
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Don't get me started on Chastain Park in Atlanta. It's an outdoor venue and rich people from the neighborhood get special tables up front and come to talk rather than listen to the band. Annoying twits. Pissed off more than a few performers as well as the audience that came to hear the music. I haven't attended any shows there for years because of that. The jerks really should be moved to the back where they belong.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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E-Dub
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Posted: September 30 2007 at 09:01 |
Dream Theater was way too loud. Prior to the show I bought some Etomytic ear plugs and it makes a huge difference. Wore them to Rush, too. I didn't have that ringing in my ears at all in the days following the show.
I remember KISS' slogan back in the early 80's: If it's too loud, you're too old. May be true; but I would rather hear the sound of my daughter's laughter any day of the week.
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