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    Posted: October 24 2006 at 11:41
have a quick listen at http://www.myspace.com/shadowcircus. We're about to finish recording our first prog rock album, and I'm wondering, is this symphonic, retro, neo, etc.?

I hate this kind of specific pigeon-holing, but I guess it would be good to know so we know how to present it to reviewers, prog radio, etc...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 12:11
Wow, great stuff! I liked it from begining till end!!! Excellent keys!
I must say this is retro symphonic prog, but from the good kind! Very impressive! Are all songs instrumental?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 12:18
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Wow, great stuff! I liked it from begining till end!!! Excellent keys!
I must say this is retro symphonic prog, but from the good kind! Very impressive! Are all songs instrumental?



Wow, thanks so much!

Actually, only one track is instrumental, the rest have vocals...Wake of a Dancing Flame has a long Hammond intro, but other than that, there are vocals on everything...

So retro-symphonic is the way to go?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 12:24
Originally posted by jplanet jplanet wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Wow, great stuff! I liked it from begining till end!!! Excellent keys!
I must say this is retro symphonic prog, but from the good kind! Very impressive! Are all songs instrumental?



Wow, thanks so much!

Actually, only one track is instrumental, the rest have vocals...Wake of a Dancing Flame has a long Hammond intro, but other than that, there are vocals on everything...

So retro-symphonic is the way to go?

Id say yes. Its normally a genre that is not very innovative but generally has a very impressive level of musicianship, good songs and a lot of keys. And thats pretty much what I just heard...and liked a lot!!!

A question, will you release this album only thrue say "legal" ways, such as a record company or will you also post it in the web so it can be downloaded? Cause I know if you just take the first choice, I wont be able to get it cause of the high price and Im pretty interested in listening the whole thing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 12:37
Wow, I'm still so glad you like it, I was expectig there to be a hair-splitting battle of sub-genre experts!

We will definitely have it available for purchase as downloadable files...EVentually we will shoot for iTunes, but I'm hearing good things about MySongStore.com...also, Myspace is supposed to begin offering a service to charge for high-quality downloads soon.

We should have it ready for purchase by Thanksgiving, barring anything unpredictable...I'll definitely post here as soon as it's all done. Also, if you write a review for us on here somewhere, I will send you a copy for free! :-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 12:44
Haven't listened to all the songs enough yet, but of your choices I'd say retro is the most fitting as you have elements of various subgenres (or "all of the above") Wink.

It really is a mixed bag, and that's good -- 70's and 80's influences (mixed bag at this site might equal Art Rock but I don't think I'd use that to describe your music).

Might call "Find Your Way" symph, the ELPish "Shadow Circus" is in the classic 70's rock vein (symph inspired).  "Dancing Flame" is more Neo-Prog, and "Radio People" with it's New Wave influence as well as 70's elements could be classified Neo-Prog.

Very good music.  Really enjoyed it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 13:26
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Haven't listened to all the songs enough yet, but of your choices I'd say retro is the most fitting as you have elements of various subgenres (or "all of the above") Wink.

It really is a mixed bag, and that's good -- 70's and 80's influences (mixed bag at this site might equal Art Rock but I don't think I'd use that to describe your music).

Might call "Find Your Way" symph, the ELPish "Shadow Circus" is in the classic 70's rock vein (symph inspired).  "Dancing Flame" is more Neo-Prog, and "Radio People" with it's New Wave influence as well as 70's elements could be classified Neo-Prog.

Very good music.  Really enjoyed it.


Thank you, also!

Maybe I should just go forward with "Progressive Rock", and let people extrapolate from it what they will...I suppose bands like Spock's Beard and Flower Kings fall into a similar category...one tune can be symph, and the next one could even be bluesy or whatever...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 13:55
It seems to me like you don't really fit in one genre since there is your heavy ELP and Yes influence that is also mixed with more mainstream '70s rock, some jazz, and neo-prog. So I would advise against declaring yourself any specific sub-genre; I don't think pigeonholing yourself works very well anyway. But of course, don't overdo and be stupid like Steve Wilson, who says he makes "Porcupine Tree music". No, Steve, you make space rock that has a heavy Pink Floyd influence and adds metal.

I didn't like it all that much (but don't mind me, I'm weird); however, I wish you the best of luck.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2006 at 14:46
Thanks for the good wishes Ghandhi2, no offense that it's not to your taste...I checked out your reviews and saw that you also don't like Close to the Edge, so we're in good company!LOL Although I'm also a huge Pink Floys fan, like yourself. We have some Floydish moments here and there...

Cheers,

John
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