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    Posted: June 16 2006 at 03:30

I was looking through the "prog radio" links on PA this morning, trying out various sites. One, "Aural Moon", the first on your links list, seems to be merely a cover for downloading some dodgy software (spyware ?!) - "error check" or somesuch crap. Doesn't look like a radio station at all.

Can anyone else confirm this?

And are these sites vetted in any way before being included on your links page? I had assumed that inclusion there was some guarantee of authenticity.............
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 17:57
I see you're all adopting the Ostrich approach to this problem - heads in the sand.
 
Well, I just tried that site again; again, even after getting rid of the "Errorsafe" popup (which shouldn't occur - I do have anti-popup software) most of the Aural Moon page is hidden by the "Errorsafe" crap. Then, when closing the page, it seems to want to scan my computer; I had to disconnect from the web to stop all the various popups & messages.
 
I strongly urge someone here to either a) check out that site, or b) if you are too scared to look there, to remove Aural Moon from your list of progradio links. It's a nasty site.
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2006 at 18:08
Hmmm. The error safe pop up is a dialog, not a pop-up, so that would explain why your anti popup (and mine for that matter) do not detect it. Same holds for the error safe window, which is an ugly overlay.

Looks like they allow the wrong kind of ads on their site, but their news page was not updated since november either....

I would agree with removing, but I do not have the power to do so...

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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 13:51
Aural Moon is a genuine Internet radio station. I have accessed it at some point although I can't remember that. On the other hand, their choice of advertising is not exactly satisfactory...
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 16:22
Being checked!
 
EDIT: I visited Aural Moon and it worked Ok for me. No ads or pop-ups. I have asked other people to check this link too.


Edited by Atkingani - June 17 2006 at 17:04
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 17:33
Thanks Smile
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 18:25
Ok,I have checked it out using both Firefox and IE (7)
I also use Norton Internet Security.

I cannot see any ads malicious or otherwise but obviously I dont doubt that you are correct.Please could you provide "screenshots" so I can pass them on to Max,our webmeister.Smile


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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 17 2006 at 19:35
I would gladly - if I knew how to do that.....Smile......the other point is that my wife (she's the thing household's chief admin & webmaster Wink ) isn't too happy about going to that site again.

If you've looked & found nothing bad, then ok. Personally, when I go there, the "error safe" ad covers so much of the radio site, that there's no way of getting to the underlying site. But if you're sure there's nothing bad, then leave it at that. Smile

Incidently, I'm currently listening to the "Delicious Agony" prog radio station - and enjoying it.......
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is I guess what the problem is. As a temporary workaround, javascript can be disabled in the settings of your browser - I don't know of any browser that allows you to change that setting for individual sites though (edit: I'm an idiot and it's right there on the screenshot so Opera at least does it, and it doesn't get shown to Firefox.), so if you want to look at Aural Moon without annoying adverts you'll have to keep changing that option. There is also a Windows program that allows access to the Aural Moon stream without having to go through the website, but unfortunately I can't remember what it is called at all.
    

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Thank you - I appreciate the technical advice, but in practice I'll just avoid Aural Moon.......Smile
 
BTW, does anyone know exactly what that "Errorsafe" programme actually does? (I'm guessing it's not what they say it does.......Wink )
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 07:22
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/errorsafe.html

It shows up on virus scans, so I'd imagine not much that's very pleasant!
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I experience the same as crimson thing. Actually, it crashes Internet Explorer.
 
Pity, because I know Aural Moon is a good Internet radio 'station'.
 
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I've just found out what the problem is:

If I move the cursor over the Aural Moon logo on the following Prog Archives page:
 
 
the URL displayed in the bottom left of the IE window is:
 
 
HOWEVER, that is not the Aural Moon URL, which is the following:
 
 
If you use the real Aural Moon URL, then you can listen to Aural Moon without any problems.
 
Next question, why is the URL on Prog Archives not the correct URL?
 
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:07
Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

I've just found out what the problem is:

If I move the cursor over the Aural Moon logo on the following Prog Archives page:
 
 
the URL displayed in the bottom left of the IE window is:
 
 
HOWEVER, that is not the Aural Moon URL, which is the following:
 
 
If you use the real Aural Moon URL, then you can listen to Aural Moon without any problems.
 
Next question, why is the URL on Prog Archives not the correct URL?
 


Nicely spotted Fitzcarraldo - that's the problem!
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:10
Smile Nice to know I'm not crying wolf after all Smile
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:14

This is what I see...
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I have sent a request to Max that he amend the link.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 14:39
Aural Moon works for me too. Good station as well.
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Points: 4097 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2006 at 17:25

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

This is what I see...

I don't think the site sends ads to firefox to the same extent; or at least when I tell Opera to identify as Mozilla I don't get the popups.
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2006 at 03:31
The "Errorsafe" programme was also picked up on my computer by Spybot, but not by Norton Antivirus, after going to the "listen to Aural Moon" link........so I shan't be going there again.......
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