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    Posted: January 12 2006 at 23:23

No mischief here  BUT ...

Was wondering what a list of 100 important (prog-related) albums by non-prog artists would look like ... using artists that may or may not already be in the site, but a maximum of 1 album per artist

1) The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band
2) Deep Purple - Concerto For Group And Orchestra
3) Queen - A Night At The Opera
4) Andrew Lloyd Webber/Various Artists - Jesus Christ Superstar
5) Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
6) Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
7) The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
8) The Who - Tommy
9) Alan Parsons Project - Tales Of Mystery And Imagination
10) The Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow
11) Wishbone Ash - Argus
12) The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
13) Journey - Journey
14) Santana - Carvanserai
15) Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

I'll start it off with this lot ... you'll note that with Queen ... even though Queen II is IMO, the better prog album, I included A Night At The Opera which I believe was a more "important" release

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 23:25
This is a great idea Trotsky. Glad to see you put Journey's debut album in the top 15.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 00:47
Originally posted by Trotsky Trotsky wrote:

5) Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 01:37

Just a few off the top of my head.

Tommy Bolin -Teaser.

Robert Plant- Pictures at Eleven.

Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush- World Anthem.

Rainbow-Rising

Art in America-Art in America

Eric Johnson-Ah Via Musicom

Ultravox-The Singles Collection

New Model Army-Raw Melody Men

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 02:01

Cheers people ... Rising Force ... I think we are going to agree on Maiden a lot more than on Malmsteen!

Mongo ... of the three artists/albums you mentioned that I've heard I wouldn't have thought of including Ultravox's singles collection ... maybe an early OMD album, but perhaps Modern English's After The Snow ... is the most prog-related synth-pop album of all for me

Robert Plant's Pictures also wouldn't make my list .. although of course I left Zep off, and some people have argue for either Houses Of the Holy or Physical Graffiti or even Presence, based on some of the longer tracks there ...

Rainbow's Rising seems a good bet ... although I actually think that the first Rainbow album beats it in terms of variety ... but probably not prog-relatedness (there's a word for you, Peter )

The others I simply don't know Mongo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 05:34

Great idea

1. Metallica - And Justice for All (1988)

2. Led Zepellin - Houses of the Holy (1973)

3. The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour (1967)

4. Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced? (1967)

5. The Doors - Strange Days (1967)

6. OMD - Archetecture and Morality (1981)

7. Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star (1973)

8. Alice Cooper - Billion Doller Babies (1973)

9. Stray - Stray (1970)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2006 at 08:16

Good list, although you seem to be saying that Queen and Supertramp are non-prog artists which is bound to start an argument with someone.

My Top 10 would be something like this (not in order)

  • Sgt Pepper
  • Argus
  • Quadrophenia
  • Rainbow - Rising
  • Physical Graffiti
  • Billion Dollar Babies - Alice Cooper
  • Lone Star - debut
  • English Settlement - XTC
  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
  • Ogden's Nut Gone Flake
  • Sunburst Finish - Be Bop Deluxe
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 01:40
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Good list, although you seem to be saying that Queen and Supertramp are non-prog artists which is bound to start an argument with someone.

My Top 10 would be something like this (not in order)

  • Sgt Pepper
  • Argus
  • Quadrophenia
  • Rainbow - Rising
  • Physical Graffiti
  • Billion Dollar Babies - Alice Cooper
  • Lone Star - debut
  • English Settlement - XTC
  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
  • Ogden's Nut Gone Flake
  • Sunburst Finish - Be Bop Deluxe


Understood, chopper, but I think the list is prog-related and everyone I've put here is under that category so it's sort of understood ... to me, at least ...

Since I do think there is a place on the site for progressive music made by artistes I wouldn't consider prog-rock ... the arguments aren't likely to be with me

Besides this is a rather obscure part of the site don't you think
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 01:54
OK here's my latest update based partly on your suggestions (if I haven't included it I probably haven't heard it ... obviously no two people will agree on the same list) ... or the same albums even if they agree on the band

1) The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart Club Band
2) Deep Purple - Concerto For Group And Orchestra
3) Queen - A Night At The Opera
4) Andrew Lloyd Webber/Various Artists - Jesus Christ Superstar
5) Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
6) Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
7) The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
8) The Who - Tommy
9) Alan Parsons Project - Tales Of Mystery And Imagination
10) The Pretty Things - S.F. Sorrow
11) Wishbone Ash - Argus
12) The Zombies - Odessey and Oracle
13) Journey - Journey
14) Santana - Carvanserai
15) Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
16) Kate Bush - The Dreaming
17) Modern English - After The Snow
18) Rainbow - Rising
19) The Small Faces - Ogden's Nut Gone Flake
20) Nirvana (60s) - The Story Of Simon Simopath
21) The Doors - Strange Days
22) Love - Forever Changes
23) Uriah Heep - Salisbury
24) Metallica - And Justice For All
25) Electric Light Orchestra - Electric Light Orchestra
26) Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
27) Spirit - The Family That Plays Together
28) Sally Oldfield - Water Bearer
29) The Electric Prunes - Mass In F Minor
30) Led Zeppelin - Houses Of The Holy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2006 at 01:56

Nice list, i love the majority (about 99.9%)!!!

How about Billy Sheehan-- Cameleon?

Im for Iron Maiden (SSOASS), Rainbow(rising) and Mr. Carlos Santana!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 01:17

OK sorry, I guess I was taking songs out of context from their albums.

Looking at the prog related list:

FM- Black Noise, is a must

ELO- Eldorado, IMO

Styx-Equnox, IMO

Triumph-JUST KIDDING!

not on the list:

Magnum-Chase the Dragon

and does the inclusion of Uriah Heep open the floodgates for the whole Art Rock section?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 02:03

 To elaborate on the Art Rock thing, fans of you know who!, will inundate you with endless debate on why all their albums should be on the list. Their 80s and 90s albums aren't prog but they're clearly prog related. You might want to stay away from that.

just a helpful hint.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 11:30
Yeah ... the silliest thing is that Uriah Heep is my all time favourite band, and Ken Hensley my biggest musical inspiration ...

for me this is the situation with Uriah Heep, Deep Purple and Queen ... I have all the albums by all three bands ... and believe that all three dabbled in prog-rock at one point or another without ever being full blown prog-rock bands in the way that Yes and Genesis were ...

this little list is just my attempt to take a different look at how these bands might be presented ... nothing official ... just thought I'd try it out ... if the thread starts getting ugly, I suppose I could close it, but I think everyone who's posted so far understands where I'm coming from ...

but having said all that you're right .. some art rock bands might qualify ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 19:42

Nice thread Trotsky! Most bands I can think of have been suggested, but how about:

Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
10cc - How Dare You
Blue Oyster Cult - Spectres or Imaginos
Ian Gillan - Child In Time or The Japanese Album
Lou Reed - Berlin

Stretching it a bit further you could maybe add: John Martyn - Solid Air, Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny, Propoganda - A Secret Wish.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 20:43

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Great choice!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2006 at 21:01

My top-10:

  1. Supertramp - Crime Of The Century (1974)
  2. Supertramp - Even In The Quietest Moments (1977)
  3. Supertramp - Crisis? What Crisis? (1975)
  4. Supertramp - Breakfast In America (1979)
  5. Supertramp - Paris (1980)
  6. Metallica - ...And Justice For All (1988)
  7. Iron Maiden - Powerslave (1984)
  8. Extol - Synergy (2003)
  9. Metallica - Master Of Puppets (1986)
  10. Iron Maiden - Somewhere In Time (1986)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2006 at 04:11
Purple's Concerto at no 2? Come on - it went by unnoticed and hasn't influenced anybody (although it may have showed some what NOT to do , as it sounds like a failed attempt to establish rockers as "serious" musicians).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2006 at 11:03
Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

Purple's Concerto at no 2? Come on - it went by unnoticed and hasn't influenced anybody (although it may have showed some what NOT to do , as it sounds like a failed attempt to establish rockers as "serious" musicians).


The only order is the order in which the albums occurred to me!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2006 at 12:22

Radiohead - Kid A

Dead Can Dance - Aion

Led Zeppelin - IV

Peter Gabriel - Secret World Live


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