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    Posted: December 24 2024 at 07:15
Just going to paste the exerpt from the review of the kids "progressive tendencies" mentioned ... I've never been much liking new prog and I don't care for garage. Is he someone to just let pass with the moment? I don't care for the music and it doesn't sound progressive. I don't like new-age authors just tossing around older genres

' Seattle, Washington has always been an epicentre for musical revelations. To this day, artists such as Henry Sachs harness this energy and make it their own. Previously known for his work as part of GALVN, and now continuing his DIY odyssey in 2024 as CASS AVIER, this modern-day maverick has a fierce DIY and experimental edge, ebbing and flowing in a genre-fluid way, arriving at soundscapes that are all of his own making.

This becomes evident throughout CASS AVIER’s most recent release, April’s Die Electric, a glistening clash and mishmash of sounds and styles, and October’s Negative Lang, a free-flowing collection of progressive tendencies and alternative garage foundations. Peculiarly, this Seattle tunesmith’s influential touchstones range back to the likes of Lesley Gore and Barbra Streisand, a testament to the endless eclecticism on show. '


What can I do about misuse of the Prog-rock term like this when it is so fallacious.

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Edited by Cristi - December 24 2024 at 07:58
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"Progressive tendencies" written in someone's blurb does not insinuate they think something is prog rock. A quick run through the artists BC page finds 0 prog or prog-adjacent genre tags.

This is hilarious tilting-at-windmills level gaitkeeping.

Edited by Tapfret - December 24 2024 at 08:21

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Methinks we have another newbie troll in our midst.

BTW I did not understand WTH they were on about
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Is seattle really the place to be to start a prog band?
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Originally posted by MitchwithDasticks MitchwithDasticks wrote:

Is seattle really the place to be to start a prog band?

Hi,

In the age of the Internet, I'm not sure it matters where the band is from! Seattle has as much as anyone else!
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Quote In the age of the Internet, I'm not sure it matters where the band is from!

Sure. Though, for some reason I've yet to see a prog band from Angola (2nd country with largest Portuguese speaking population behind only Brazil).
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Quote In the age of the Internet, I'm not sure it matters where the band is from!

Sure. Though, for some reason I've yet to see a prog band from Angola (2nd country with largest Portuguese speaking population behind only Brazil).

Hi,

Angola is better represented in Film, than it is in rock music ... a couple of things from there have made it to the Film Festival here in Portland a while back, for example, but I kinda think that the main issue is an economy that does not help its youth much ... and the Film industry, often is helped by neighbor countries or borrowed equipment.

All in all, it is likely there is one or two bands around, but we are not aware of it, as there might not be enough listeners of a whole lot of music in Angola ... and the arts, was one of the things that Portugal made a point of disabling for a long time. Same thing happened in Mozambique. The artists, sometimes, are the loudest of folks on just about anything, and Portugal was very well aware of that ... even though our family have never mentioned, and the silence was scary and deafening many times, I actually think that my dad left Portugal because of that policy, coupled with the neighboring country's habits of shooting artists, actors and other film/theater folks! His literary name was already reasonable by the time we left, based on his support and reviews for a lot of films and the reviews that were considered "freedom propaganda" and "subversive". One of dad's students, a few years after his passing, even published a book with all the original film reviews and the versions that were censored and published. I think my mom was the person that provided a copy of the originals, which were thought to be lost.

Whether something is there or not, I can not tell you at all. One of the weird things about many Portuguese, is that no one knows anything about the old places we took advantage of. And I don't think that many of those governments, have a lot more issues than the arts in the past 50 years ... and hope things improve in the future.

I guess, we could 


Edited by moshkito - December 26 2024 at 09:53
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Well, sure. However, putting the politics aside, it baffles me how prog music didn't spread into the poor post-colonial African states after the advent of the internet! I mean, the resouces are out there. You can stream the 70s prog music in Africa or pretty much everywhere in the "independent" world now. For example. The population of Angola is significantly bigger than the population of Estonia (37+ million vs. ~1 million). Both Angola and Estonia were under the control of a colonial regime: Portugal and Soviet Union respectively... yet there is much more Estonian prog music than there is Angolan.

My assumption is that the reasons are mainly of cultural and traditional nature. Young Africans, those young enough to have spent most of their early adulthoods well after the beginnings of the widespread internet era, are just not interested in cultivating this Euro-anglosphere+Japan-centric music style that is prog rock. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Prog rock is passed from generation to generation. So, it's way more likely to find a willing group of young Polish, Argentinian, Australian, Canadian, et al. musicians that one day decide to form a band that plays the kind of music, the members' "dads" used to listen to, than in the countries which did not showcase any significant musical tradition or scene in the 70's and early 80's, such as Angola, Mozambique, Equicentrial Guinesa, Burkina Faso and so on.

Edited by Hrychu - December 26 2024 at 10:21
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