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    Posted: November 14 2024 at 17:38
At the end of summer this year, 50 years passed since the release of this dreamy, emotional, calm album with its flowing and floating melodies and themes. The huge success of Tubular Bells (number 1 in the English LP charts) came as a complete surprise to everyone involved, and the introverted, shy Jesus-looking progressive musician Oldfield in particular was unable to cope with this development at all. So he retreated to the solitude of rural Herefordshire to work in peace and quiet on his second album, Hergest Ridge. What came of it? Pure, unadulterated Mike Oldfield for connoisseurs. While Tubular Bells sounded like a collection of various smaller instrumental pieces, Hergest Ridge presents itself as a single composition. Oldfield's apparatus is simply splendid here. The melodic guitar playing (an Oldfield trademark) appears clear and always appropriate. The choirs and organ sounds exude a kind of pastoral calm, gentleness, and balance.

I purchased my copy upon its release. I had tears in my eyes when I heard the record for the first time; it was progressive music ingeniously written that was so moving to me back then. Even today, 50 years later, when I close my eyes, I think of lush green meadows, morning dew, light mist, and the ruins of old houses and castles. For me, this is the finest Oldfield album of all time. Some critics derided the album at the time. They were anticipating it as a sort of sequel to Tubular Bells. Hergest Ridge, however, dethroned Tubular Bells from the top spot in the album charts down to number two. Wasn't that fantastic?








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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Jared Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2024 at 20:29
I love the album too, as you can see from my Avatar?

I also lived at the foot of HR for 5 years... in Kington, so I know it well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Octopus II Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2024 at 01:30
Fantastic album.

His first four albums are all great. Smile
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I remember very well the first time I listened to Hergest Ridge, as it was a day which turned to become one of the very good memories from my late teenage years. 
I was visiting a friend of mine together with some other friends, and he had bought this album, so one of the first things I did, when we came there, was listening to it. Meanwhile this friend of mine made some pancakes of a rather special kind which we ate, even they tasted somehow peculiarly. And then we went outside and had a big snowballs fight, as it was a winter day, and just couldn't stop laughing and having a lot of fun - as stoned as we were. Big smile
That was surely great, and Hergest Ridge?, I became not so little fond of it, even probably not quite as much as of Tubular Bells and Ommadawn. That is maybe the case today as well, but still, definitely one of my three Oldfield fond-ofs / loved ones.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2024 at 09:45
I do like HR more than TB, but you can't go wrong with any of Oldfield's early albums.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve Wyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2024 at 12:14
I would take Hergest Ridge over ALL of Oldfield's albums from the 1970s. Which is not to Sl*g off the others, but to emphasize just how phenomenal Hergest Ridge really is!
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My reaction on first hearing was very similar; it is a very beautiful and emotionally charged piece of music and has a very important place in my heart. It still moves me today and has been played almost daily of late as it was introduced to me by my older brother who recently died. It is imbued with something quintessentially English but not in any kind of 'patriotic' way; more that it reflects the very earth, sky, plants, rocks and the weather that inspired it. Ommadawn continued that very elemental and intuitional theme; perhaps reflecting the things which brought the composer solace from the things that haunted him. 

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Random thought but did he invent Post-rock?! I first heard the less prettied up version on Boxed which I may like a bit more (it was originally mixed into quad for that as well). The 'metal' section is still a bit weird to my ears, heavily influenced by avant composer David Bedford I suspect. These were the days of true progressive music and pushing boundaries.
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This particular time period was a huge experiment in composition for Mike Oldfield. The fact that he was an instrumentalist and inspired to write in places that were peaceful and quiet wasn't by chance.

The interest in having inspiring surroundings was accommodating to the development of Oldfield's first 4 albums. Whether you like or dislike his music it's quite understandable how he works.

In a sense it's conceivable that he was repeating sections of music ( note patterns) pretty much in the way that Philip Glass and Steve Reich would...yet he wasn't writing in the same style and particularly when he played a piece which would sound like "Traditional Irish Folk" or simply how he improvised over a Jig or just Irish Music in general...and yet he was often mentioned in the same breath as Glass.

However you want to define Mike Oldfield's music should be based on how it makes you feel. It's difficult to pigeon hole him.

There are times when he sounds Irish but then there are times
when his entire music composition has traveled somewhere else
completely!! A place that no one else has ever taken you to.
That's obviously something that happens naturally to him. For

example...some of his soundscapes which create an atmospheric sounding chord progressions seem to capture a dark vibe. One that creates a supernatural imagination not unlike David Bedford. However Oldfield's music does not come across being like someone else's music. He may have influences...but he created a style of his own...

Somehow...someway...statements were made about him going inward...escaping reality...introverted...next please? Oh issues or personality disorder of some kind based on the appearance of a person that acts painfully shy or even anti social. He was working on music! His behavior is obviously a product of cutting off the world to compose. That's perfectly normal to do if you're a composer.

Eventually he joined some kind of cult and learned how to socially open up ...unlike his decline to do interviews in the past. He was recording Incantations when he began meetings with this odd group of people. When he began opening up some people from his past felt it was over the top and should have remained painfully shy.

As time progressed he began releasing albums that contained anywhere between 12 to 17 minute long instrumentals that brought back the memories of his early days..while the rest of the album would contain songs. I used to wonder if he was under pressure from the record company to be less obscure and more commercially viable. Or perhaps he wanted to change or alter his writing style to be less obscure and more mainstream all on his own....nevertheless his first 4 albums are magical in a magical time period...when he was inventing a style in a hermitage way of life that he may have touched upon...

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Never got Oldfield.   Hope to one day.   Not holding my breath.

On the other hand Steve Reich is a genius.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I do like HR more than TB, but you can't go wrong with any of Oldfield's early albums.

Up to and including Incantations or even a little beyond that?
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

I do like HR more than TB, but you can't go wrong with any of Oldfield's early albums.


Up to and including Incantations or even a little beyond that?


Up to Incantations for me, I like the long tracks off the next 4 (through Crises) after that get pretty selective.
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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:



As time progressed he began releasing albums that contained anywhere between 12 to 17 minute long instrumentals that brought back the memories of his early days..while the rest of the album would contain songs. I used to wonder if he was under pressure from the record company to be less obscure and more commercially viable. Or perhaps he wanted to change or alter his writing style to be less obscure and more mainstream all on his own....nevertheless his first 4 albums are magical in a magical time period...when he was inventing a style in a hermitage way of life that he may have touched upon...

Although Mike Oldfield could be termed a 'genius' (although the seventies had a lot of them , Fripp, Emerson, Wakeman, Howe etc) he still went in the same direction that everyone did post punk. It's not that strange. He started touring after he completed Incantations but that was a massive undertaking and so for later albums he put together a much sleeker smaller group of musicians that called do touring properly without the massive logistics. I love a lot of the bonus extra live tracks that you get on the reissues of that period (1980-83 mainly). His first four albums (could say five as Incantations was a double) show his pure progressive side and were at a time when artists were encorouraged to experiment. By 1979 that was nearly gone. ''Pretentious'' cried the critics and everyone got into line and the dream of progressive music died.
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50 years ... time flies Amigos
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Starshiper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2024 at 06:15
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Never got Oldfield.   Hope to one day.   Not holding my breath.

On the other hand Steve Reich is a genius.

I bought the "Music for 18 Musicians" LP (the original ECM version) when it hit the shelves in 1978. However, I always preferred "Tehillim," released in 1981, because it sounds more like the 70s Oldfield. 

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

50 years ... time flies Amigos

The older I get, the more it feels like it was but a tick ago!
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