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    Posted: 5 hours 13 minutes ago at 09:03
Hi,

I did not start in pop music and fan driven radio music at all. But I had already started listening to a lot of things in Brazil, as dad got a record player so he could play his collection of classical music, with lots of opera!

We did get, in Brazil, albums by The Beatles and Rolling Stones, that we kinda heard on the radio which was a treat on that record player for us, but we had to play it very low to not bother mom and dad!

By the time we came to the USA, it was Sgt Pepper's, Their Satanic Majesties' Request, Blonde on Blonde and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band ... and from then on Moody Blues (Nights in White Satin ... but it was the long piece with the orchestra that really got me going ... far out!!!) ... so that by the time, I got into what became known as "progressive" my tastes in music were varied and not strictly mandated by a song, or album that was in the top listing of nothing but imaginary sales!

One of the first things I did get ... ELP's Pictures At An Exhibition, since it was one of my favorite pieces ... and also Alan Stivell, that sister had brought from France, and that first Harp album, that was absolutely far out and neat ... and it kinda busted up the idea of "progressive music" for me ... for a long time, and when it all became known as "art rock", it was closer to the truth of it, but again, it was mandated by record companies so their own product was better, by making sure it was listed way up and above the other stuff!

Genesis (SEBTP), Nektar (ATITO), TD (Phaedra), all came on the same night by Guy Guden on one of the first apartments we shared. It was too much, and I went back to my earphones and Hawkwind's Space Ritual! At that time I was also hearing YES, and picked up The Yes Album for the song that was being played on the radio ... I've Seen All The Good People. Jt I had heard way back to their first or 2nd albums as well as Fairport Convention. Gong, Hatfield & The North, Henry Cow, Dagmar and all those folks came later during Space Pirate Radio time, after January 1974. It was during the 1972 time that we heard Amon Duul 2 and Can, on the same night, along with Kevin Ayers, and Roy Harper, as a friend of ours was housing a large record collection for someone that obviously had been involved with a radio station ... and I suppose that all became the main stuff in the very first weeks of the Space Pirate Radio shows. I had all the Led Zep albums and several bootlegs of theirs, and it was at that time that I found a lot of PF bootlegs which were all far out and led me to all their early stuff, not quite the Syd Barrett stuff at all, until the following year.

From January 1974 on, most of the "new" stuff was based on what we got as albums from various places in LA, along with my scavenging of albums in the LP used bins ... which got me Quatermass, Triad/Spontaneous Combustion, Byzantium, (one of Guy's favorites at the time), and a few other things, like Family (Anyway!) ... and these fit nicely along with my SF/LA collection of stuff ... I had all The Doors and Iron Butterfly, for example, as well as Stoneground, Coven, and several other local folks.

Peter Hammill came home from the used LP bins. H to He was the album and I loved it ... it was a poetic voice and singing that I like, as much as Jim M.

But remember, that in LA, just like any big cities, you get a lot more stuff ... and I got to go to the Aquarius Theater (In its old home) and see HAIR, and across the street got to see 2001 in the Cinerama Dome, which was an experience that you did not need to get stoned for! Both those shows in one night was totally far out! And I bought the soundtrack for HAIR ... and never touched a Three Dog Night single ... !!!

Imports, which were so much a part of SPR in the early days, dominated the new releases, and many of them were on a different time scale and released much later ... though things were changing quickly and the releases were getting in sync way better within a few years, but it made for GONG and a lot of other European bands a bit more to get into and appreciate. But we already had Banco, PFM, Vangelis and others way before they were released here.

Completely different time scale for music, and not dominated by the numbers at all ... which made it all much better and interesting ... you didn't know anything and were about to get a heck of a surprise ... and one of mine was Quatermass ... I think I wore out 2 or three copies!
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I have to say I didn't always buy the best or most obvious ones first.


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I have to say I didn't always buy the best or most obvious ones first.


Yes- 90125, Classic Yes, Fragile, relayer (my dad had the yes album-that was all by them-so I probably first heard his copy of that)

Genesis - From Genesis to Revelation, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Genesis (shapes)

ELP - Same

King Crimson - Islands (yes, this was my first purchase), In The Court of the Crimson King, Larks Tongues in Aspic, A young person's guide to king crimson, Three of a Perfect Pair

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut (maybe my first prog or prog related album I bought) My uncle (RIP) was a fan so I heard most of them first through his collection.

Rush - Signals (other than that I heard them through my brother's friend who was a fan)

Gentle Giant - Three Friends, Octopus

Camel - Mirage, Snowgoose, The Single Factor (all on cassette tape and I barely knew who they were but saw bands compared to them a lot in prog catalogs so was curious)

Jethro Tull - Aqualung

Kansas - Leftoverture

Marillion - Misplaced Childhood, Clutching At Straws

Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed, In Search of the Lost Chord, On the Threshold of a Dream

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Sky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 hours 3 minutes ago at 23:13
I really started buying albums in 1980-81. To best of my memory:

Yes: Yes Album (1980)
ELP: Welcome Back My Friends to the Show that Never Ends (1980)
Genesis: Abacab (1981)
Jethro Tull: M.U.- The Best of Jethro Tull (1982 - 83)
King Crimson: Larks Tongues in the Aspic (1982 - 83)
Pink Floyd: Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd (2001 - 02)

Styx: Pieces of Eight (1979)
Supertramp: Breakfast in America (1979)
Gentle Giant: Three Friends (1981)
Rush: Moving Pictures (1981)
Mahavisnu Orchestra: The Inner Mounting Flame (1982)

Either Styx or Supertramp was my first proper album I bought and I'm pretty sure it was in 1979. I was still in Jr. High.

Yes and ELP, once I bought those first two albums, the money I made cutting grass in the Summer and raking neighbors yards in the Fall went to buying Yes and ELP records. Same with Gentle Giant.

Genesis was a little later. Heard the title track Abacab and bought in short order. It was my brother who bought the Genesis and Rush records. When I started college in 1984 I went bought my own copies.

Pink Floyd. Borrowed friends albums. First actual PF I bought was Echoes, although my wife owned DSOTM.

King Crimson. After I bought LTIA, Red and Starless and Bible Black I bought shortly thereafter.

Mahavisnu Orchestra. This began my fusion phase. RTF, Al Dimeola, Dixie Dregs, Pat Metheny, etc, etc started finding their way into my album collection.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Yesterday at 13:09
Well, I started with cassette tapes and can't really remember much about the order of things with those. I recall I did own Moving Pictures, Long Distance Voyager, Paradise Theater, and Three Sides Live on cassettes.

Then I do recall with more clarity that the two first vinyls I bought after getting a turntable were "Fragile" and "Dog and Butterfly." I very quickly owned the complete Yes canon in short order. Yes were my gateway band.

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Nice. I discovered most of these a couple of decades later as I wasn't around when they were new. They all still have a very special place in my heart:

...I have to start with two albums I located in my parents collection as a child:

Pink Floyd - The Wall
ELO - Time

...much later:

Kraftwerk - The Man-Machine
The Residents - Duck Stab/Buster and Glen
Swans - Children of God
Dead Can Dance - St
Genesis - Nursery Cryme
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord
King Crimson - In the Court...
Curved Air - Second Album
Pink Floyd - Piper (second discovery, it counts for me)
Tortoise - St

...later:

VdGG - H to He...
Peter Hammill - Silent Corner...
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Magma - St/Kobaïa
Univers Zero - St/1313
Gentle Giant - Aquiring the Taste
Caravan - If I could...
Camel - Mirage
Hatfield and the North - The Rotter's Club
Soft Machine - Volume Two
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Herbie Hancock - Crossings
Gong - You
Can - Ege Bamyasi
PFM - Storia di un Minuto
BSM - Io Sono Nato Libero
Le Orme - Collage

Never genuinely fell in love with Yes, ELP, Rush... (but I like some Yes quite a bit - and a little Rush)

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The first albums I bought with my own money weren't prog albums. They were The Slider (T Rex), Symphonies For The Seventies and Mozart In The Seventies (Waldo De Los Rios) and a cassette of Argus (Wishbone Ash). The first prog Big 6 albums I bought were The Yes Album and Wish You Were Here. I also had Rain Dances, Moonmadness, Breathless and A Live Record by Camel.
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Big 6
ELP - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Yes - Close To The Edge

Others:
Camel - The Snow Goose
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Supertramp - Crime Of The Century
Procol Harum - Grand Hotel
Man - Back Into The Future
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
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My "first" encounters with the Big 6:

Yes - Fragile
ELP - Tarkus
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Jethro Tull - Stand Up
King Crimson - ITCOTCK
Genesis - Genesis Live
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2023 at 13:52
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Strange as it may seem, I didn't own any albums by the so-called Big Six back in the seventies. Embarrassed

Whatever to think about it, those were close to

Camel - Moonmadness
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth

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Strange as it may seem, I didn't own any albums by the so-called Big Six back in the seventies. Embarrassed
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My first purchases were (between maybe '83, as the earliest, and '91):

Pink Floyd - Relics (vinyl)
The Who - It's Hard (cassette tape)
Yes - Fragile (cassette tape)
Pink Floyd - Animals (cassette tape)
Rush - Hemispheres (cassette tape)
Kitaro - Oasis (cassette tape)
Laurie Anderson - Big Science (cassette tape)
Kate Bush - The Kick Inside (CD)
Kate Bush - Lionheart (CD)
A few Clannad albums (CDs)
Supertramp - Crime of the Century (CD)

If going outside what is in PA, then I would include Bauhaus, various Enya albums, and some other things in that period. Most of the music I listened to were from my older brothers' extensive collections, and my friends and their older brothers collections when I was a youth in the 80s. And I had many albums that had been given to me (various Led Zep's, Gary Numan's, Alan Parsons Projects, The Cure's....)
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I had loads of tapes initially, a real mix of heavy metal, Mike oldfield, Rick Wakeman, Camel, Focus etc recorded from my older brother and mates older siblings but the first vinyl lps i bought with my own money from summer jobs as a teenager were:

Hawkwind 1st lp
Barclay James Harvest Live tapes
Camel A live record
Genesis Seconds out
Pink Floyd Animals
Blue Oyster Cult Cultosaurus Erectus
Rush A farewell to Kings 
Roy Harper Bullinamingvase (one of those days in England)
Caravan Land of Grey and pink
Steve Hillage Green

and loads of others that flooded in from second hand and junk shops once i got the bug! At a quid a throw i could afford to try lots of things on spec.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2023 at 11:37
Big 6
Pink Floyd - Animals
Genesis - Live
King Crimson - ITCOTKC
Jethro Tull - Broadsword and the Beast
Yes - Yessongs
ELP - I've got to admit I never bought an album of them; my father had a few and I would tape them and others from friends; I only bought stuff when there were mp3/flac files around

Before those I had
Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Nightingales and Bombers (and more of them)
The Beatles - 1967-1970 (and more of them)

Pink Floyd Animals was the first that was not Manfred Mann and not Beatles; after that I bought lots of stuff in pretty short time from flea markets at 5 DM or so, first Tangerine Dream, Can, Amon Duul II, Camel, Renaissance, Cure, Comsat Angels and many others within probably half a year.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Ten most memorable early album purchases back in the mid-1970's:-

Blue Oyster Cult - On Your Feet or On Your Knees
Camel - Moonmadness
Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
Demis Roussos - Forever and Ever
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth

Your tastes haven't changed much have they?

LOL  I'm not so sure about that, whatever Paul says.


Edited by David_D - January 15 2023 at 11:20
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Ten most memorable early album purchases back in the mid-1970's:-

Blue Oyster Cult - On Your Feet or On Your Knees
Camel - Moonmadness
Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
Demis Roussos - Forever and Ever
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth


Your tastes haven't changed much have they?

No, my musical tastes have just broadened out more over the years into a whole new world of prog I never even knew existed before discovering ProgArchives and I still love those ten listed albums just as much today as when I first bought them nearly fifty years ago, which reminds me, Demis Roussos is coming up soon on my Greek prog blog, under Prog Related. Wink


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Ten most memorable early album purchases back in the mid-1970's:-

Blue Oyster Cult - On Your Feet or On Your Knees
Camel - Moonmadness
Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning
Demis Roussos - Forever and Ever
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
Rick Wakeman - Journey to the Centre of the Earth


Your tastes haven't changed much have they?



Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - January 15 2023 at 10:07
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I lived a sheltered life apparently. Didn't know about Prog really until I was in my 40's so the purchases that stand out for me in the mid seventies which were close to being first buys for me were Rush's A Farewell To Kings and Led Zeppelin IV which I bought during a high school field trip to Toronto where we had a couple of hours to shop or do whatever. Me and a buddy went into Sam The Record Man and I picked those two up. I always remember the teacher asking me what I bought as we were getting back on the bus and showing him he almost smiled but the girl behind me had a Mike Oldfield record she bought called Tubular Bells or something like that and he made a big deal about it.Wink
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Some more of the very memorable purchases related to post-'70s :

       Asia Minor  Crossing The Line                                      Tool - Undertow
Djam Karet - Reflections From The Firepool                   Änglagård - Hybris
Fates Warning - The Spectre Within                                Aesma Daeva - Frigid Beauty
Gunesh - Looking At The Earth                                       Green Carnation - The Acoustic Verses  
Los Jaivas Alturas de Machu Pichu                               Indukti - S.U.S.A.R.
Marillion - Script                                                               Psychotic Waltz - Into the Everflow 
Anekdoten - Vemod                                                         The Mars Volta - De-loused
Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine                                         Riverside - Second Life Syndrome

Most of them CDs, the rest vinyls.


Edited by David_D - January 15 2023 at 11:04
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