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Posted: February 13 2016 at 07:40 |
Prog is quintessentially British. It came out of British bluesrock. There are lps - like Giles,Giles and Fripp - that SOUND totally stereotypically English. But this thread is for lyrics which mention something specifically English. (To make things a bit easier, let us allow psych as well.)
.... JETHRO TULL - hunting girl (spankings) -thick as a brick (Biggles)
Marillion - garden party (I could also add "Chelsea Monday" ,but let us not go there: place names in a song title is just too easy)
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 08:24 |
Winston Churchill who used to be a British flag is the first thing that comes to my mind (Willow Farm).
You can pick almost any song by Big Big Train. Greg Spawton has a preoccupation with English history and David Longdon has the same with English folklore.
Edited by someone_else - February 13 2016 at 08:26
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 08:33 |
Good one!
Tropicana Fishtank -Umbrella men
Bonzos - rule Brittania - equestrian statue ( anyone that can come up with lyrics containing the word "gymkhana" is THE MAN)
John Pantry - Pitsea pub
can't think of anything for trainspotting - maybe somewhere in Big Big Train? - so this is the closest: John's Children -train in my head
Two Strawbs tracks that don't really mention anything specifically English, but have a potent overall old English atmosphere to them, at least for myself, are : "Just a Collection of Antiques and Curios" "Canon Dale"
Amazing Blondell - that lp with the landscapes theme is very English
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 08:37 |
Dukes of Stratosphere - Mole from the Ministry
Hackett - carry on up the vicarage
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Depends on your definition of prog, I don't hear too much Englishness in Harmonium, Magma or Tangerine Dream.
Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - February 13 2016 at 08:41
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 08:50 |
 Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Depends on your definition of prog, I don't hear too much Englishness in Harmonium, Magma or Tangerine Dream. |
No idea what you are referencing here.
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Tea Company -Come and Have Some Tea With Us (recently someone bought a mega haul of thousands of lps and this rarity was one of the big finds. Fantastic coverart as well!)
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 09:21 |
Wellington boots?
Marmite?
Royal Doulton?
Rambling?
Bad teeth?
Bacon sarney?
Fetes?
Guy Fawkes Day?
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 10:09 |
bbaabs wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Depends on your definition of prog, I don't hear too much Englishness in Harmonium, Magma or Tangerine Dream. |
No idea what you are referencing here.
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bbaabs wrote:
Prog is quintessentially British.
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This.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 10:11 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Depends on your definition of prog, I don't hear too much Englishness in Harmonium, Magma or Tangerine Dream. |
Not to mention Devil Doll, Ange or PFM 
Also saying prog came out of Brit blues rock only represents part of the story...60's psychedelia was a more fertile field for prog development...
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 10:25 |
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UK band Strange Days had "Englishness" in their lyrics at times, with "The Journey" typifying someone losing their job in a depressed economy, and "A Unanimous Decision" portraying the struggles of a Union. Both were very English issues at the time the Strange Days sole album hit the streets in 1975.
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 10:40 |
Englishness? Nearly every Jethro Tull album from '69 to '79 or Genesis album up to Selling England by the Pound.
P.S. Throw in Floyd from the DSotM through The Wall period as well.
Edited by The Dark Elf - February 13 2016 at 10:49
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 11:46 |
Thought of these two instantly:
"Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way"
Young man says you are what you eat - eat well. Old man says you are what you wear - wear well." |
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 13:18 |
Stackridge is a good one for English SOUND (as is Paul Roland) but I cannot think of any specific "English" lyrics there. Can you?
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Nogbad: the nabob of negativity.
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 14:43 |
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I lost interest in your thread when you posted...........Nogbad: the nabob of negativity.
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Posted: February 13 2016 at 15:21 |
That Strange Days lp is a good one. (I have orig vinyl.)
Almost subconsciously I always link this to the England lp.
Speaking of..."Garden Shed" = a very English thing.
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