Dream Theater - "A Dramatic Turn Of Events"

the Circus Maximus thing is kind of ironic, seeing as how Circus Maximus started off by being a Dream Theater/Symphony X cover band

that means someone in Dream Theater like Supertramp, that makes me proud 

They must also like The Flower Kings........the begining of Last Minute on Earth from The Rainmaker has the same 'Shaman' dude singing as on Bridges In the Sky. He must be in high demand these days.....

darkshade wrote: Easily their best album since Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence

Catcher10 wrote: They must also like The Flower Kings........the begining of Last Minute on Earth from The Rainmaker has the same 'Shaman' dude singing as on Bridges In the Sky. He must be in high demand these days.....

As I recently got The Rainmaker, I found this a little amusing.

Also, Bridges In The Sky has the choir sounds similar to some other Flower Kings epic, I think Garden of Dreams (?)

Really! I thought the track Breaking All illusions was alone much better than the entire Black Clouds album.

CCVP wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: darkshade wrote: Easily their best album since Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence   Black Clouds is miles better than Dramatic Turns. No lie.

CCVP wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: darkshade wrote: Easily their best album since Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence   Black Clouds is miles better than Dramatic Turns. No lie.

AlexDOM wrote: Really! I thought the track Breaking All illusions was alone much better than the entire Black Clouds album.

It is a good song indeed, but forgetable IMO.

darkshade wrote: I love BC&SL. It does some things better than their new album, such as the killer opening and nice mix of some real heavy stuff and more melodic, uplifting moments; but A Dramatic Turn of Events is an overall better effort in my opinion.

Catcher10 wrote:   I love BC&SL...to me its the more prog metal, story telling that I like about BC&SL. ADToE is more that symph/prog that I like about Octavarium and SDoIT also SFAM.   But to me for DT prog metal I enjoy Train of Thought more than BC&SL. Endless Sacrifice, In the Name of God and Stream of Cons are DT at their prog metal best.

Answering you both:

The thing I love about Dream Theater is that, every album, they come up with something new. EVERY album. I do agree that Systematic and Black Clouds had some points of contact, but those were the shorter songs (the ones written to be singles). Dramatic Turns, for its turn, seems generic: every time I listen to the album I think about some song from either the Kevin Moore or Derek Sherinian years and I do not like that; Dream Theater were supposed to be an original band, with original ideas every album they put out and I don't see that many new things here.

This is the first album since Falling into Infinity I have troubles getting through it all in one piece: I usually skip songs, which is something I don't do in any of their other albums!

Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad album,  but it isn't very good either, just average. The thing is, in my opinion, the album has recieved so much praise  because it does not take any risk at all, they play it safe all along! If you like more of the same, then fine, it is your thing; I like it myself some times. However, Dream Thetare is one of the few bands that I simply did not expected this kind of thing to happen at all, which is why I am so disappointed with this album.

CCVP wrote: Answering you both: The thing I love about Dream Theater is that, every album, they come up with something new. EVERY album. I do agree that Systematic and Black Clouds had some points of contact, but those were the shorter songs (the ones written to be singles). Dramatic Turns, for its turn, seems generic: every time I listen to the album I think about some song from either the Kevin Moore or Derek Sherinian years and I do not like that; Dream Theater were supposed to be an original band, with original ideas every album they put out and I don't see that many new things here. This is the first album since Falling into Infinity I have troubles getting through it all in one piece: I usually skip songs, which is something I don't do in any of their other albums! Don't get me wrong, it isn't a bad album,  but it isn't very good either, just average. The thing is, in my opinion, the album has recieved so much praise  because it does not take any risk at all, they play it safe all along! If you like more of the same, then fine, it is your thing; I like it myself some times. However, Dream Thetare is one of the few bands that I simply did not expected this kind of thing to happen at all, which is why I am so disappointed with this album.

I can think of a few moments that are new for DT on the new album. For one, how about the "tickle" section during the intro of Lost Not Forgotten? Or most of Bridges In The Sky?

I admit, however, that they could have mixed it up in the structure/arrangement department.