Worst Prog Band?

Anyone remember the 'Ram-Jam Band? (Black Betty)........

they was pretty 'crap'......especially when you bought the album on the strength of one track.

ELP
Symphony X

idiotPrayer wrote: ELP Symphony X

OK I am afraid this post lives up to the name of the one who posted it....

The T wrote: These threads degenerate quickly. Especially when wisdom is ignored and Sigur Ros doesn't win as worst band ever.

Indeed.

InfiniteWake wrote: xTheSpectreWithinx wrote: this will probably get me the ultimate flame-fest ,but I don't really care:   Frank Zappa.   I have never been able to listen to more than 30 seconds of anything that he did...   it either leaves me bored out of my mind; feeling like he's "trying too hard"; or just doesn't sound like music to me.  I honestly don't even consider him "progressive", but many others do... to each his own I guess. I'm actually going to have to agree here, too.  I don't think he's the "worst" but I would die happy never hearing another song of his.... except for maybe "Willie the Pimp".  I love that stupid song.

i am not a huge Zappa fan but you have 2 give credit for his innovation and influence on prog. Its complex music and thats why people hate it so much.  

idiotPrayer wrote: AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: InfiniteWake wrote: xTheSpectreWithinx wrote: this will probably get me the ultimate flame-fest ,but I don't really care:   Frank Zappa.   I have never been able to listen to more than 30 seconds of anything that he did...   it either leaves me bored out of my mind; feeling like he's "trying too hard"; or just doesn't sound like music to me.  I honestly don't even consider him "progressive", but many others do... to each his own I guess. I'm actually going to have to agree here, too.  I don't think he's the "worst" but I would die happy never hearing another song of his.... except for maybe "Willie the Pimp".  I love that stupid song. i am not a huge Zappa fan but you have 2 give credit for his innovation and influence on prog. Its complex music and thats why people hate it so much.     btw, Sunn O))) is considered prog by the UK magazine and other prog sites, just not here for some reason. What genre are they if not prog?  I'd say experimental/drone/ambient/avant garde metal but definitely not prog. There is a big difference between progressive rock and experimental music

Being innovative and complex does not necessarily make you progressive

Sunn O))) is an experimental band that blends black metal, ambient, drone, noise, doom, jazz even. I consider them as innovative and progessive as Can. They worked with a huge number of musicians from all genres and made lots of cover songs of many bands.

[/QUOTE] If you are referring to Zappa - he is more than just innovative and complex, he exudes the prog spirit by the very nature of his lyrical content and conceptual frameworks - Zappa is one of the godfathers of prog - and i am not even a huge fan. i have Hot rats which is awesome instrumental based prog and i have Yellow Shark, prog elements definitely and Mothers of Invention albums which are strange little gems with proggy bits. Listen to Gumbo Variations and tell me thats not prog or Willie the Pimp - prog for sure. [/QUOTE]

I think you're over egging the puddy for Zappa here: Yes, innovative, complex and influential certainly but I just don't get what's progressive about caustic schoolboy humour and 'boyish blasphemies'. His irreverence was definitely refreshing but nothing was more sacred for Frank than his own independent entrepreneurial success wedded to a studiously  arch conservatism. The foregoing is the only conceptual framework I can detect in his latter work. He became less a godfather of prog than a perfect role model for business students.

For me, his most enduring music is instrumental and if only he had practised what he preached a bit more often i.e. shut up and play yer guitar etc his output would have been so much better.

There is a band here in the archives called "An Albatross", I was introduced to their music a couple of months ago, and have to say that is the worst musical experience I have had recently...lot of senseless noise...but well, it is all a matter of tastes.

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: idiotPrayer wrote: ELP Symphony X OK I am afraid this post lives up to the name of the one who posted it....

Although I do acknowledge ELP as actual prog and understand their importance in th 70's, I almost agree with the idiot on both suggestions.

I guess the real "worst prog band" are like Symphony X, among the bands I don't think deserve the prog(as in progressive)-label.