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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

By the way regarding the VH1 special on Ladyland. I don't think it mentions Larry Young's appearence on that album, but I believe I read in a Young bio that he did play on one cut of that album. He and Hendrix were playing together some at that point.

 

There is Hendrix bootleg of Hendrix jamming with McLaughlin, recorded by (the now notorious) Alan Douglas - was Young also on that recordings? This would have been at the time of McLaughlin's Devotion album with Young and MIles, so there is a likelyhood of a Young/Hendrix connection....


I have some cassette copies of Young and Hendrix jamming that I recorded off of a radio show. It is not a very good jam because both sound very tentative.
I always thought Devotion was supposed to be a Hendrix album, but McLaughlin had to fill in when Jimi passed away.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

It is not a very good jam because both sound very tentative.
I always thought Devotion was supposed to be a Hendrix album, but McLaughlin had to fill in when Jimi passed away.
 
Oh I hadn't heard that before, but it could make sense. Although recording contracts much more rigorously tied an artist to one label, and rarely gave permission to record for other labels. Hence so many perfromers at Woodstock are missing from the two albums sets originally released in the early 70's, or Clapton/Harrison conjuring up nom de plumes to appear on each other's records but for different  labels. Hendrix seems to be tied hard to Polydor at the time - and still does. Elsewhere you read: it was John McLaughlin's reaction to seeing/hearing Hendrix playing with all stops out OR it was McLaughlin's (some what belated) psychedelic rock album....


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Mandrakeroot, I prefer Beggar's Opera their debut album, what a cascade of Hammond runs Approve !
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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

And on Echoes he combines the psychedelic sounding Farfisa organ with the more heavy sounding Hammond organ, especially in the middle part


You're right Erik - it's definitely a Hammond on Echoes (Meddle), but I'm sure it's a Farfisa on Atom Heart Mother. I tried to get a decent shot of the rear cover of 'Ummagumma' as that shows all their equipment, but looking at the grainy images there, I'm pretty sure that was a Farfisa too.

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Jim, it's also on the Pink Floyd bootleg DVD entitled Anthology, in Japan they played Atom Heart Mother without an orchestra and Rick Wright uses a Farfisa organ, really mindblowing sound and in my opinion superior to the studio version Thumbs%20Up
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I now realise I'm guility of omitting MMW  from my article, wrt to resurgence/re-emergence of the Hammond in the early/mid 90's  - particularly Medeski's Hammond driven  soul jazz to relatively stripped down drum'n'bass rhythms
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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

And on Echoes he combines the psychedelic sounding Farfisa organ with the more heavy sounding Hammond organ, especially in the middle part


You're right Erik - it's definitely a Hammond on Echoes (Meddle), but I'm sure it's a Farfisa on Atom Heart Mother. I tried to get a decent shot of the rear cover of 'Ummagumma' as that shows all their equipment, but looking at the grainy images there, I'm pretty sure that was a Farfisa too.


There might be some Farfisa on Atom Heart, but there is lots of Hammond too, especially on that long space blues jam. You can hear the percussion, a Farfisa doesn't have that.
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I forgot to add that almost all the organ on Ummagumma is Farfisa.
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Hey Erik, I am currently negotiating with that church to buy their old Hammond. It is not a B3, but I am having a hard time determining what it is. The pictures in the Vail book are helpful but not exact enough.
I have heard that there are markings on the backside of some of the vacum tubes that give the model. There seem to be some markings that would indicate that it is an earlier B model.
Do you have any advice or info on this?
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There'll be a plate on the rear of the organ to give the model number; post a picture if you can & I guarantee you'll get stacks of people telling you which model it is...


...one or two of them may be correct

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

There'll be a plate on the rear of the organ to give the model number; post a picture if you can & I guarantee you'll get stacks of people telling you which model it is...


...one or two of them may be correct


Thanks for the info, where on the rear of the organ will this be? (Sorry about the double entendre but it was unavoidable )
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                Fellow Hammond freaks, this is beyond my knowledge Wacko
 
Today I received the Rick Van Der Linden DVD entitled An Ekseptional Trace (featuring live footage from Seventies Trace from and re-union Ekseption from 2003) and the Camel DVD entitled Moondances (live 1976/1977), I am sure the Hammond freaks will be very pleased with these releases and hope to deliver reviews in this thread very soon Thumbs%20Up
 
                                         
 
 
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

There'll be a plate on the rear of the organ to give the model number; post a picture if you can & I guarantee you'll get stacks of people telling you which model it is... one or two of them may be correct

Thanks for the info, where on the rear of the organ will this be? (Sorry about the double entendre but it was unavoidable )


Correction, it may be inside the back panel - either way, the label will look like this:



The model number will be in the top left.

Go on though - post a picture....



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Thanks again for your help Jim, I will get a chance to look at it again on Fri, but my wife will be out of town with the digital camera, so I may not get a picture till next Tue. I'll keep you posted.
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 20:37
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
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Mandrakeroot, I prefer Beggar's Opera their debut album, what a cascade of Hammond runs Approve !
 
If Saturday to the Pick Up Records I will find it... It will be mine.
Otherwise just I go to the Red Moon Records... Already you understood! 
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 20:40
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
                Fellow Hammond freaks, this is beyond my knowledge Wacko
 
Today I received the Rick Van Der Linden DVD entitled An Ekseptional Trace (featuring live footage from Seventies Trace from and re-union Ekseption from 2003) and the Camel DVD entitled Moondances (live 1976/1977), I am sure the Hammond freaks will be very pleased with these releases and hope to deliver reviews in this thread very soon Thumbs%20Up
 
                                         
 
 
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Camel's "Moondancers" is one of my future purchase (for Christmas!!!)!!! Also because I took in hand this DVD already 2 times and...  It plays so well in my mind...! 


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               After this weekend I will review both captivating DVD's Thumbs%20Up
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Hey Jim, It is a RT 2, an RT3 with percussion would have been better but I can get percussion from Trek II. It has some damage and hasn't been played in over a decade or more. It comes with two giant Leslie speakers that look OK. I am going to offer $300 or $500, I haven't decided yet.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2007 at 07:46
Wow I'm impressed - these are huge beasts:



If you can get it for around $300/$500 you've got yourself a seriously good deal, especially if you get 2 Leslies included as well!

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CAMEL%20Moondances%20progressive%20rock%20album%20and%20reviews Symphonic Prog
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CAMEL — Moondances
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— First review of this album —

4%20stars After the live compilation DVD’s Camel Footage I and II and the live DVD Total Pressure (1984 concert), Camel Productions has released this live DVD (running time 2 hours) featuring Seventies live footage: the 1976 Moonmadness tour in the London Hammersmith Odeon and the 1977 Rain Dances tour in the London Hippodrome. Although there is only one year between these two concerts, there are remarkable differences in the line-up and the sound.

The 1976 concert delivers a line-up with Andy Latimer, Peter Bardens and the rhythm-section Andy Ward/Doug Ferguson. Most of the 6 compositions clock around the 10 minutes and contain flowing shifting moods, drenched into a wonderful 24-carat symphonic prog tradition and embellished with excellent solos on keyboards and guitar: swirling Hammond organ, flashy Minimoog and exciting slide guitar (strong psychedelic undertones) in White Rider, a pitchbend driven Minimoog solo and an accellaration with fiery guitar runs in Lunar Sea and strong interplay of powerful Hammond and sensitive guitar in Dunkirk and Another Night (including a spectacular Hammond solo). But my absolute highlight is the ‘classic’ Lady Fantasy: swirling Hammond runs, a fluent rhythm-section, flowing changes of atmospheres, a beautiful part with Fender Rhodes electric piano and warm guitar and in the final part that sensational eruption with a mindblowing Hammond organ solo (wonderful images from the late Peter Bardens), this looks like a perfect tribute to him!

The 1977 concert contains Richard Sinclair on vocals and bass and the famous Mel Collins on saxophones and clarinet, he succeeds to give an extra dimension to the Camel sound (like in Lunar Sea). Other changes are the keyboard sound of Peter Bardens (more string-ensemble and less Hammond organ) and the more song-oriented approach of the band since the release of the album Rain Dances (the band plays 6 of the 11 songs of that album). We can enjoy Andy Latimer with his Gibson double-neck guitar, the same as Jimmy Page uses during Stairway To Heaven and Andy also plays flute on Rhayader. I have never been a fan of Rain Dances but Camel delivers tasteful versions and lots of good solos on guitar (fiery in Never Let Go and One Of These Days ..), saxophone and clarinet (Unevensong and Lunar Sea), Minimoog (Highways Of The Sun and One Of These Days ..) and Hammond organ (Never Let Go). The bonustracks are ‘studio audio recordings’ in the original line-up line-up: Autumn (1973) and Riverman (1974), “no fillers, all killers” as Greg Walker uses to say!

From all released Camel DVD’s, I am mostly delighted about this one, mainly because of the 1976 concert (perhaps Camel at their artistic pinnacle) with that outstanding version of Lady Fantasy! My rating: 1976 concert 5 stars and 1977 concert 3,5 stars.



 
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