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JJLehto 
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 Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:59 |
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wow, crazy stuff Jody.
The ODs and heart attack are sadly not too surprising. It's a poorly kept secret many of these guys roid and do all kinds of stuff to their bodies.
Well goes to show, even the best guys may be harboring deep issues...
RIP Junior
Edited by JJLehto - May 02 2012 at 21:59
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 01:11 |
 JJLehto wrote:
Different news:
The Saints players penalties have come out. Only 4 after talks of 20 something potentially involved, and the expected 4 to 8 week penalties, though the full season for Vilma was a bit surprising.
Already the debate about his being too harsh, all of it being too harsh, or that it was too light...
All I know is the Saints will rally, and the offense is what it is. They may suffer a bit but, I don't think it'll be too bad, if at all. This is kind of like a pre season injury.
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I suppose it was just my ignorance, but I didn't expect too harsh of punishments for players who are now off the Saints...and I certainly expected more for players who are still on the Saints. I agree with your last statements. Probably isn't going to affect the team too much. Probably will affect Vilma more than anything.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:14 |
Vilma suspended for the entire season. 
Wow,that was friggin harsh.
Edited by TheProgtologist - May 03 2012 at 08:15
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 09:23 |
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He got what he deserved.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 09:31 |
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Ravens lose Suggs for the season. Ravens hating people like me and MoM rejoice.
Jody cries.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Catcher10
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 09:57 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
He got what he deserved. |
Did that fat slob Suh from Detroit get what he deserved when he openly without any problem stomped on the GB Packer's head and arm? I doubt it.......
Again, Goodell is not handling the WHOLE NFL situation properly. When so many people... fans, NFL players active and non active, believe that some of the punishment for this bounty gate is excessive, something is not right.
I say have a jury or panel view 10 NFL games, mix in the NFC Championship game and other team games. Then ask them to identify where they saw defenders targeting other players to hurt them, and also ask them to ID the players doing it.
My answer would be all of them.....
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 10:41 |
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^The Suh thing has nothing to do with it, but no I don't think Suh got punished appropriately.
I don't think you can just identify when it looks like someone is trying to injure someone else.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 11:55 |
Eh, I think it's kind of sad the Saints D hasn't been that good AND they were trying to hurt people  What if they played clean??? ; ) Like I said, this is more or less a bad pre season...I'm sure the team will rally, and the offense is already a machine. I really don't see the Saints hurtin too much from this.
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Catcher10
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 13:56 |
^ I can agree with that......but the NFL still in general handled this whole thing badly...too much for some and not enough for others, but really too much.
Nothing has been fixed.
And Saints need to get Brees signed......give him what he wants
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:02 |
Well does the NFL handle anything well? What's ironic is Vilma put up big tackle numbers but he struggled against the run. He was a generally good LB but it seems when pushed he could be a weak spot in the D (maybe why he needed to try and kill people? ) Watch his replacement be better! Is Brees still not signed???
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:12 |
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Not the last I heard......still unsigned
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 14:14 |
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I know nothing is a guarantee but if there's ever one player you'd think it's him :S
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:19 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Ravens lose Suggs for the season. Ravens hating people like me and MoM rejoice.
Jody cries.
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What exactly happened here? I just heard on TV that whomever the ravens drafted has big shoes to fill with Suggs but there wsn't an explination.
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rushfan4
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:25 |
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He tore his Achilles tendon playing basketball.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:31 |
Quick google search is saying Suggs hurt himself in conditioning training...though some claim it was basketball. hmmm always love those conflicting reports Well, we have to play the Ravens...I wouldn't mind a Suggs-less team
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:54 |
rushfan4 wrote:
He tore his Achilles tendon playing basketball. |
Ahh thanks. At first they made it sound like they got rid of him which didnt make any sense. That sucks for ravens and esp for Suggs. Cant be a fun injury.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 17:54 |
JJLehto wrote:
Quick google search is saying Suggs hurt himself in conditioning training...though some claim it was basketball.
hmmm always love those conflicting reports
Well, we have to play the Ravens...I wouldn't mind a Suggs-less team
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Oh yes! Definitely better for the g-men.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 23:44 |
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Yeah, it's gunna be hard to play them Ravens. I won't like seeing Ray and Flacco get the hell beaten out of em...but it's gotta happen ; )
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:17 |
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I hope they go 0-16.
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Posted: May 04 2012 at 09:24 |
JJLehto wrote:
.... seeing Ray and Flacco get the hell beaten out of em...but it's gotta happen ; ) |
That could be confused as a possible bounty........Can't do that in in thre NFL, so I have heard.
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