Albums that you find very generic and boring

^ I agree with you 100%, but I feel that some of the tribal tendencies are reduced somewhat on a site like this. Reduced but not eliminated.

Also, intriguing thoughts and experience you bring to the discussion, Lewian.

Logan wrote: If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? In a sense, no it doesn't. It creates vibrations in the air, but sound in a sense does not exist without being heard, and ear are not enough to hear something, it requires a brain to filter and interpret the sound, and brains are different. I believe that the individual listener does bring meaning to the music -- this is in the realm of audience reception aesthetics, or reception theory. The sound of music (the hills are alive with it apparently) consists of soundwaves that enter the ear and is then interpreted by a brain.   Music is more than just sound, it's an experience of organised sounds, and each individual's experience brings individual meaning. Not only are there physiological differences in the inner ears that affect what is heard, but our neurology and psychology affects how we interpret/ hear the music. Definitely people hear things differently, and our memories, associations, emotional state, experiences and physiology affect how we interpret the music. When we see or hear something, it is not direct, it is our mind's interpretation/ processing of information. In terms of what music is enjoyable, a lot of that depend on culture, exposure, inculcation, and expectation as well as individual psychology (and I think there are evolutionary reasons why some types of music resonate more than others with more people aside from exposure -- so a natural inclination rather than just social constructs etc.). There are standards, so certain types of music will be be more popular generally than other types.

Thank you, sir.  I return the compliment.  Yes, sticking absolutely strictly to topic can wear thin sometimes.  And it truly is part of the equation that we are all writing about here, just not the topic in and of itself.

Logan wrote: If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? In a sense, no it doesn't. It creates vibrations in the air, but sound in a sense does not exist without being heard, and ear are not enough to hear something, it requires a brain to filter and interpret the sound, and brains are different. I believe that the individual listener does bring meaning to the music -- this is in the realm of audience reception aesthetics, or reception theory. The sound of music (the hills are alive with it apparently) consists of soundwaves that enter the ear and is then interpreted by a brain.   Music is more than just sound, it's an experience of organised sounds, and each individual's experience brings individual meaning. Not only are there physiological differences in the inner ears that affect what is heard, but our neurology and psychology affects how we interpret/ hear the music. Definitely people hear things differently, and our memories, associations, emotional state, experiences and physiology affect how we interpret the music. When we see or hear something, it is not direct, it is our mind's interpretation/ processing of information. In terms of what music is enjoyable, a lot of that depend on culture, exposure, inculcation, and expectation as well as individual psychology (and I think there are evolutionary reasons why some types of music resonate more than others with more people aside from exposure -- so a natural inclination rather than just social constructs etc.). There are standards, so certain types of music will be be more popular generally than other types.

I largely agree with all of this. Human experience of colour is perhaps a useful analogy, in that the colours we perceive have no objective existence outside of that perception - as a matter of physics there's just light of varying wavelengths, the fact that to us “red” is an entity that is completely qualitatively different from “blue” arises in the brain - for good evolutionary reasons.

Edited by Mascodagama - November 28 2018 at 11:59

^ I agree with that. Flow is important to me, which is why I try to keep a healthy diet high in fiber.;)

Honesty/ sincerity is very important, sometimes I do use little white lies with close family and friends when pushed, but it's very uncomfortable. When one is too effusive with praise, that lessens the value of when one really means it (thinking of how I am with my kids, I mean I want them to have healthy self-esteem, but...). Lying can create such a lot of work because one has to remember one's lies and then embellish those to continue to deceive. At one point, one might even start to remember the lies as if they are true, or have some break with reality. It can distort things not just for others, but for oneself too.

When I was about 23 and worked for a theater (playhouse), I begged off work claiming that I was sick. A friend had pushed me into joining him at an amusement park. I felt very guilty about doing it, but it was quite a fun day at Playland. Little did I know that a TV station had filmed me in tight zoom playing it up on the roller coaster and I would be on the news. A theater manager saw it, how embarrassing, but she laughed and I didn't get in much trouble.

It is a good community here with different types who do communicate differently and have different tastes, so there is some friction. There's always friction, which I don't think a bad thing -- I like to have my perceptions challenged as well as validated, being challenged can help us to mature (I'm pretty immature). It can get kind of rowdy, but it almost always seems to sort itself out without too many bruised feelings. Sometimes I go on Twitter and read the threads, and there is so much nastiness. It seems to bring out the most extreme in people -- the character limit has made things worse, I think, because it results in a lack of nuance in tweets -- a lack of balance and an increase in dogmatism. One often finds the worst straw manning, and the least charitable interpretations of what others are saying, and ad hominems galore, or maybe I'm just looking at the wrong twitter accounts.

Edited by Logan - November 28 2018 at 13:20

Logan wrote: If a tree falls in the forest, and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? In a sense, no it doesn't. It creates vibrations in the air, but sound in a sense does not exist without being heard, and ear are not enough to hear something, it requires a brain to filter and interpret the sound, and brains are different. I believe that the individual listener does bring meaning to the music -- this is in the realm of audience reception aesthetics, or reception theory. The sound of music (the hills are alive with it apparently) consists of soundwaves that enter the ear and is then interpreted by a brain.   Music is more than just sound, it's an experience of organised sounds, and each individual's experience brings individual meaning. Not only are there physiological differences in the inner ears that affect what is heard, but our neurology and psychology affects how we interpret/ hear the music. Definitely people hear things differently, and our memories, associations, emotional state, experiences and physiology affect how we interpret the music. When we see or hear something, it is not direct, it is our mind's interpretation/ processing of information. In terms of what music is enjoyable, a lot of that depend on culture, exposure, inculcation, and expectation as well as individual psychology (and I think there are evolutionary reasons why some types of music resonate more than others with more people aside from exposure -- so a natural inclination rather than just social constructs etc.). There are standards, so certain types of music will be be more popular generally than other types.

Necrotica wrote: At least half of the Moog and Hammond-slathered Yes-lite w**k prog revival artists in the vein of Glasshammer should be on this thread :) Also, I was never much of a Marillion fan either If I'm gonna listen to neo-prog, I'll stick with my Beardfish and Phideaux