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MillsLayne
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 14:14 |
The fact that Hobbs, Matchett and Buxton came over to NBC Sports was enough to make me feel better about F1 not being on Speed anymore.
And what the hell is up with the McLarens? Very slow in practice.
Also, remember the name Kyle Larson on the NASCAR side. Future superstar.
Edited by MillsLayne - March 16 2013 at 15:33
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sleeper
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Posted: March 16 2013 at 19:45 |
These times look ominous. Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m27.407s 2. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m27.827s + 0.420s 3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m28.087s + 0.680s 4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m28.490s + 1.083s 5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m28.493s + 1.086s 6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m28.523s + 1.116s 7. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m28.738s + 1.331s 8. Romain Grosjean Lotus Renault 1m29.013s + 1.606s 9. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m29.305s + 1.898s 10. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m30.357s + 2.950s Q2 cut-off time: 1m37.641s Gap **
11. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.067s + 1.873s
12. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m38.134s + 1.940s
13. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m38.778s + 2.584s
14. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m39.042s + 2.848s
15. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m39.900s + 3.706s
16. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m40.290s + 4.096s
Q1 cut-off time: 1m47.330s Gap *
17. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m47.614s + 4.234s
18. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m47.776s + 4.396s
19. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m48.147s + 4.767s
20. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m48.909s + 5.529s
21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m49.519s + 6.139s
22. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m50.626s + 7.246s
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 00:22 |
Wow what timing, home to see the final 2 minutes of quali. Shocker, RBR front row LOL It continues
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 00:23 |
New year, same as the old year.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 02:35 |
Wow! Kimi!  Gunna try to not get to bent on one race but Ferrari off to a good start, and Kimi looked great. I think it'll be a great year. Kudos for Sutil. Great strategy pulled off well in his first race back after the year off thanks to that assault thing
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 04:03 |
I admit I was pulling for Sutil, but when Kimi wins there are no complaints in this town. The finn all day long!  as ice....
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 11:28 |
sleeper wrote:
My Money's on Raikkonen
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 Now that was a good race, I was sruprised to see that both Ferrari and Lotus were faster than Red Bull in race conditions, didn't expect that at all, aprticularly after their easy front row lock out in quali. Those super softs were crap. Good race at Sebring yesterday, the two Audi's swapped the lead for the whole race and GT was crazy as usual (12 cars fighting for the win).
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Gerinski
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 11:45 |
sleeper wrote:
My Money's on Raikkonen providing the biggest challenge, apparently he put in a very strong 14 lap run during P2 which suggests they've got a good race car to challenge with.
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Congratulations crystal ball man! Yeah it was surprising to see Red Bull having such a fast car but not being able to manage the tires well. Today it was one of those races won basically by strategy, thumbs up to Kimi and Lotus! It must be difficult as a driver, you always want to push faster, overtake your rivals etc, driving such a race in which you have to probably hold yourself a bit and just manage to make the required lap times just enough to beat the 3-stop strategy guys must be mentally very hard for the driver. At any rate it seems that it can be a very interesting championship!
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 12:35 |
Yeah, I've had some lucky educated guesses but I deff did not have Kimi picked for the win. Just one race but if we can expect this pace from Lotus and Ferrari gunna be a sick year
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sleeper
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Posted: March 17 2013 at 19:46 |
What was most telling about Kimi's performance for me was that despite him being on much older tyres than the rest he was driving away from the field and set the fastest lap of the race on the last lap.
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Posted: March 20 2013 at 04:34 |
If you're gunna get field fillers might as well make it fun!
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 21 2013 at 18:21 |
Yeah this is like the glory days. Forget what year it was, but McLaren was kind of off the pace and they would just load Kimi to the brim with fuel instead, and still put in great quali times and quick race form!
Shame he was so lazy, and yes McLaren was inconsistent, in terms of talent he's so much better than 1 title.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 22 2013 at 06:22 |
2003 your thinking of, and I think you'll like todays practice times. Pos Driver Team Time Gap Laps
1. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault 1m36.569 28
2. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1m36.588s + 0.019s 27
3. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m36.661s + 0.092s 33
4. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m36.985s + 0.416s 23
5. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1m37.026s + 0.457s 29
6. Romain Grosjean Lotus Renault 1m37.206s + 0.637s 26
7. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m37.448s + 0.879s 32
8. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1m37.571s + 1.002s 30
9. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m37.574s + 1.005s 32
10. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1m37.788s + 1.219s 10
11. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes 1m37.838s + 1.269s 21
12. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1m37.865s + 1.296s 29
13. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.068s + 1.499s 31
14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1m38.645s + 2.076s 23
15. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m38.738s + 2.169s 31
16. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault 1m38.801s + 2.232s 27
17. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m38.904s + 2.335s 31
18. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth 1m39.508s + 2.939s 30
19. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault 1m39.660s + 3.091s 28
20. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault 1m40.757s + 4.188s 29
21. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault 1m40.768s + 4.199s 32
22. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth 1m41.438s + 4.869s 23
IndyCar starts again this weekend as well. I'm particularly looking forward to seeing how Simona de Silvestro does now that shes moveed on to KV racing and isnt held back by a Lotus engine, she was setting top 5 times in testing.
Kubica is also in action this weekend, the Canaries Rally is his first international event since the end of the 2010 F1 season. He ruled himself out of victory last night but is currently 40 seconds up on a strong field after 3 stages.
Edited by sleeper - March 23 2013 at 09:19
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MillsLayne
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Posted: March 22 2013 at 23:31 |
Excited about F1 and Indy this weekend (though St. Petersburg is a snooze fest usually). NASCAR, eh. Fontana's not usually my idea of good racing.
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sleeper
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 09:25 |
MillsLayne wrote:
Excited about F1 and Indy this weekend (though St. Petersburg is a snooze fest usually). NASCAR, eh. Fontana's not usually my idea of good racing. |
Listening to the drivers the Gen 6 car isnt their idea of good racing either, seems like NASCAR got it a bit wrong there. Kubica's out of the Canaries rally, was dominating but crashed on the second stage this morning. Qualy for Malaysia, I'll be surprised if Massa or Alonso isn't leading into turn 1 tomorrow and with Kimi getting a 3 place grid penalty for blocking Rosberg he'll have a tough job winning again I think. MALAYSIAN GRAND PRIX, Qualifying 1. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1m49.674s 2. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m50.587s + 0.913s 3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m50.727s + 1.053s 4. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m51.699s + 2.025s 5. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m52.244s + 2.570s 6. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m52.519s + 2.845s 7. Kimi Raikkonen * Lotus 1m52.970s + 3.296s 8. Jenson Button McLaren 1m53.175s + 3.501s 9. Adrian Sutil Force India 1m53.439s + 3.765s 10. Sergio Perez McLaren 1m54.136s + 4.462s 11. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m37.636s + 1.446s 12. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 1m38.125s + 1.935s 13. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1m38.822s + 2.632s 14. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1m39.221s + 3.031s 15. Paul di Resta Force India 1m44.509s + 8.319s 16. Pastor Maldonado Williams no time 17. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m38.157s + 1.348s 18. Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m38.207s + 1.398s 19. Jules Bianchi Marussia 1m38.434s + 1.625s 20. Charles Pic Caterham 1m39.314s + 2.505s 21. Max Chilton Marussia 1m39.672s + 2.863s 22. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 1m39.932s + 3.123s * Three place grid drop for blocking Rosberg
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Gerinski
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 10:34 |
sleeper wrote:
Qualy for Malaysia, I'll be surprised if Massa or Alonso isn't leading into turn 1 tomorrow and with Kimi getting a 3 place grid penalty for blocking Rosberg he'll have a tough job winning again I think.
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It was a strange qualy with Red Bull apparenly struggling in Q1 but ultimately doing well in Q3 and the rain appearing. Besides weather unpredictabilty I would say that this race looks good for Alonso.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:03 |
Ah yes Indy, damn it I keep failing to watch though I say I will. This year I finally need to do it. Esp after the craziness of last year. Shocker, Vettel again  He's gunna break the pole record surely. Over halfway there already. Would be something if he could top Senna's in a lesser amount of time, opposed to Schumi who topped it over many many years. Ferrari 2,3! The team is finally back. after ya know, year and a half
Edited by JJLehto - March 23 2013 at 13:04
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sleeper
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 13:30 |
^Longer than that, when was the last time Massa was a serious front runner?
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MillsLayne
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 14:01 |
^2008. He should've contacted Denny Hamlin's sports psychologist sooner.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 23 2013 at 18:27 |
sleeper wrote:
^Longer than that, when was the last time Massa was a serious front runner?
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Ah true! Though I know there was some question, at least for me, if Massa was 100% "back" in 2010 when Alonso just missed the title. Obviously the '11 and early '12 cars were off pace. In my boredom I realized that Alonso fell just a combined 8 points short of being a 5 time champion by now. Damn, what could've been eh?
Edited by JJLehto - March 23 2013 at 18:30
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