Yes-The Gates of Delirium

emigre80 wrote: Michael678 wrote: micky wrote: Codera the Great wrote: I do agree with the people who have mentioned it, The Yes Symphonic version is simply god-like in every proportion of the word! that is an amazing version Love it love it love it. I can attest to that as well!   a stunning version of one of best songs in the world.  Who could ask for more?  (Listened to it on the way home)

More love for the symphonic version. I really don't need to listen to the original anymore, and whenever I do put it on, I end up slightly dissapointed. I must add that those are some of my favourite orchestrations for a rock song... the orchestra really blends with the band, and neither overpowers the other, but just play as is necessary for the music. Oh yeah, and you can see the orchestra is having fun playing with Yes... usually the orchestra musicians are so profecional and you just can't see much emotion from them.

Steven Wilson remastered "Relayer" amazingly beautiful - it seems that Wilson's talent has no limits.i personaly dont like symphonic version of "Gates of Delirium".

Edited by Komandant Shamal - December 09 2015 at 22:10

sublime220 wrote: Komandant Shamal wrote: Steven Wilson remastered "Releayer" is amazingly beautiful - it seems that Wilson's talent has no limits.i personaly dont like symphonic version of "Gates of Delirium". micky hates everything you said

TheLionOfPrague wrote: but I'd have made the middle section slightly shorter, not much just two minutes or so.

^^That long instrumental section with its amazing buildup leading up to that final climax (drums by Alan White). I wudnt want to change/miss even a second of that section. What follows is certainly the most beautiful thing anyone ever did, but that wud never b the same without that section which is such an emotional release in the context of the song.

sublime220 wrote: Komandant Shamal wrote: Steven Wilson remastered "Releayer" is amazingly beautiful - it seems that Wilson's talent has no limits.i personaly dont like symphonic version of "Gates of Delirium". micky hates everything you said

^ I really like the timeline, no trouble stirred up here.

YrLic wrote:   I've had several version of Relayer going back to vinyl, then CD, then now the extended CD. I love all three songs on the album, but I have a particular affection for Gates. Like others on this forum, it took me a while to appreciate but now I view it as quite possibly the greatest piece of music I've ever heard - Mozart/Beethoven be damned ! This is cohesive and concise - no part can be moved or removed. The conclusion of 'Soon' is like a peace that falls that is more beautifully enjoyed having survived the battles that preceded it.  Without the drama and tension, it falls flat.   I created a timeline of this epic to stir up trouble. I mean, discussion    Start Length Event Voicing Lyric 00:00 02:09 Overture Inst   02:10 00:47 Assumptions Vox Stand and fight 02:58 00:19 Fears Vox Choose and renounce 03:18 00:21 Transition Guitar   03:40 00:27 Rationalization 1 Vox Wars that shout 04:08 00:21 Rationalization 2 Vox Words cause our banner 04:30 01:13 Affirmation Guitar   05:44 01:05 Opposition Vox Listen, should we fight forever 06:50 00:39 Procession Guitar   07:30 00:19 Resolve Vox The beast will run 07:50 00:09 Resolve (final) Guitar   08:00 02:19 War preparation Keys / Guitar (brisk)   10:20 02:27 Battle Bass riffage, crashing etc.   12:48 02:17 Victory Keys / Guitar  (13/4)   15:06 00:59 War is over, realization Sustains   16:06 00:59 Soon (Instr) Inst   17:06 01:47 Soon (Hope) Vox Soon, oh soon the light 18:54 01:05 Soon (Instr) Inst   20:00 00:23 Soon (Finale) Vox Soon, oh soon the light 20:24 01:25 Conclusion Sustains       YrLic .db.

nice work!

Perfection.

I've always liked everything on Relayer although I still find the cha cha lyrics to still be a odd ball idea that works only as a break from the fiery instrumentation in Soundchaser. Ambitious music with plenty of variety and many things happening. I recall Chris Squire referred to the bass climax in Gates as funky. 

Soon might be a bit of a sudden change of gear for some. Perhaps Yes should have indexed their records as Floyd did so that listeners can "see" the different numbers that make up the suites. Probably would have helped understanding Tales (I regard as one work in, um, maybe 8 parts) and Gates as 3 parts or so but who's counting? ;)

I like that the various incarnations of Yes do bring different aspects of the musical character to the fore. They're never going to please everyone no matter what they do. This is the nature of progression; it must change and the songs do not remain the same.

The Wilson remaster brought out hidden nuances; a new experience of the piece. One day when I get the blu-ray thing going I might be able to check out what's on that DVD - I think it has the original CD master as well as the "needle drop" vinyl transfer. I can get rid of my HDCD Japanese copy then...

I wonder how Gates would have turned out had Rick Wakeman been there at its inception.

stacyj wrote: Like i said! im surprised so many like Relayer? ....as far from Time and A Word till now? dont ya Love Andersons voice?

Edited by Son.of.Tiresias - March 26 2016 at 08:24