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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2011 at 13:52
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

I like it - it's really growing on me getting better with every play.

So what do you think, a one off like Damnation or a new direction? I tend to think the former.


In the documentary that came with the album, Mikael seemed to imply that the metal/growling days of Opeth are over.  I won't really miss the growling at all, but I will definitely miss the contrasts between the super-heavy and melodic acoustic sections of the heavier albums.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 10:32
Borrowing the special edition from my brother and giving it listen number 1.  We actually watched the documentary a few nights earlier.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 11:07
I have the Special edition, but I haven't looked at the bonus DVD yet. I also have no way of playing the album in 5.1 as of right now, but I do want to watch that documentary sometime today
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 11:19
I'm not a fan on Death Growls etc, never been into Opeth, although i have been looking for a way into their music for some time, mainly because they are so adored in Prog circles, so when i heard Heritage was their proggiest yet, i figured this was my "In" so to speak and i must say i think the album is excellent, great Prog music, it makes me want to go back to the material i didn't care for and re-evalauate it.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 15:51

My first listen. This is one of those rare things - a prog album with space to breath and not trying to fill every second with something amazing .In that respect very reminiscent of Anglagards - Hyrbis (but not sylistically). Establish a mood and draw you in. A contender along with Steven Wilson's 'Grace for Drowning' to be album of the year I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2011 at 16:50
I dislike it alot. I think it's their worst album since their debut, Orchid.
 
Of course I'm more of a metal-head than a prog-head, though I grew up in the '70s listening to Kansas, Rush, etc, so take it as you will.
 
Maybe Heritage will grow on me. I hope so....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 08:49
I like Orchid.
 
I like this one better. It is definitely growing with each listen. I'm not sure if I'm going to give it 5 stars, but I might. But I really admire Mikael for taking big risks, just a lot of artistic integrity to follow his muse rather than following the money.
 
I have Still Life and Ghost Reveries. I don't need another one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 30 2011 at 08:53
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

I have Still Life and Ghost Reveries. I don't need another one.


That's how I feel about it.  Even if I don't end up loving this album, it's something they had to do, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2011 at 07:37
Originally posted by KirksNoseHair KirksNoseHair wrote:

In the documentary that came with the album, Mikael seemed to imply that the metal/growling days of Opeth are over.  I won't really miss the growling at all, but I will definitely miss the contrasts between the super-heavy and melodic acoustic sections of the heavier albums.


Haha, the bonus DVD really cracked me up - Mike looked so bored and annoyed. LOL

He's talked quite a bit in interviews lately about his mood swings and bouts with depression, so maybe he just had one of his "low points", but the parts where he's in his home studio talking about the record he could not have looked less enthusiastic if he tried.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2011 at 19:08
For those of you who miss the 'old' Opeth, here's something new for you:
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2011 at 15:57
Opeth wants me to have at least one of their albums in my collection (even at the cost that they annoy old Opeth fans). Well, they reached their goal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2011 at 10:12
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Opeth wants me to have at least one of their albums in my collection (even at the cost that they annoy old Opeth fans). Well, they reached their goal.


That's true for me as well. Wink   I've just ordered the album after listening to it on Spotify several times. I never thought this would ever happen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 08 2011 at 11:39
Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Opeth wants me to have at least one of their albums in my collection (even at the cost that they annoy old Opeth fans). Well, they reached their goal.


That's true for me as well. Wink   I've just ordered the album after listening to it on Spotify several times. I never thought this would ever happen.


Did you guys miss Damnation?

That was the first Opeth I bought, and I went quite a while before getting a second because I was "scared" of trying the harsh vocals.  Pretty silly, in retrospect!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 11:51
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Opeth wants me to have at least one of their albums in my collection (even at the cost that they annoy old Opeth fans). Well, they reached their goal.


That's true for me as well. Wink   I've just ordered the album after listening to it on Spotify several times. I never thought this would ever happen.


Did you guys miss Damnation?

That was the first Opeth I bought, and I went quite a while before getting a second because I was "scared" of trying the harsh vocals.  Pretty silly, in retrospect!

No, absolutely not. In fact, I bought Damnation a week ago. Now I have two Opeth albums in my collection.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 04:41
If Heritage or Grace for Drowning is Prog Archives album of the year, I will be very pleased. Both are incredible works. Heritage will bring Opeth a brand new audience. The people who saw merit in their music, but were put off by the cookie monster growly vocals. My brother is more interested in jazz, but he borrowed my copy of Heritage and ripped it to his PC. I think even my dad would enjoy this disc. 

I honestly won't be bothered if Opeth continue to go further in this direction. BWP was great, but it's been done. We don't need to hear it remade again and again. Other bands with metal beginnings have successfully transcended their roots and gone into more atmospheric and progressive avenues, like Katatonia and Anathema. I will be pleased if Opeth follow suit
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 07:02
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I had very high hopes for this album. After the third listen, I'm dissapointed. It's not that it's bad (it's not), it's just... boring and surprisingly uninspired. The songwriting is indeed crappy, there are severall good moments, but they are all lost among lesser ones. The longer tracks fail miserably. Most remarkable moments for me are the short rocker "The Lines in My Hand" and the amazing final two-and-a-half minutes of "Folklore".
Exactly this, on all points, I find it an agreeable listen but there's not much beneath the surface.Mike can write decent songs and if he remembers how to, the new sound certainly has potential for a future release.


It's a real grower. I would say, and I have thought about it, that this is probably the best re-invention of a band since PT released In Absentia. Yes, I see it as a gateway album, a means to en end, but after a dozen listens I could confidently give it 4.5 stars. It is a classic rock album with many Prog elements. There are chunks of Red by Crimson, some Gentle Giant and even some Camel but these are fused with 70s bands like Deep Purple/Rainbow, later Zep and even Rush.

Terrific listen with real depth, well done Opeth.

The recording and mixing is flawless too!
A great way to throw off the death metal heritage of the band.


I have to say, I wasn't too sure on the first 2/3 listens, then something clicked & I 'got' the album; I now think it's their strongest recent album - in fact, I'd say it's their strongest since Blackwater Park (although completely different albums) & probably one I'd play the most at the moment - superb production from Wilson, great songwriting, great musicianship. A definite 8/10 (and growing ).

If this is a reinvention, cannot wait until the next album...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 07:45
I never thought I'd say it, but I miss the 'cookie monster' vocals a bit. I think Opeth do 'death' very well indeed.

But they've always had great prog credentials too, and Heritage, as Jim says is a grower. It has more depth to it than Damnation - the other non death growls album - and is more ambitious. 3 stars for now, but a probable contender for 4 in the near future.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 08:40
Unfortunately it seems I am feeling less favorable towards this album with repeated listens.  The music is good, but I can't think of any tracks that really reach out and grab me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2011 at 08:57
Heritage will be my first Opeth album ever once it arrives.  Heard the "single" and thought it was pretty strong, so I made the leap.  I also liked Akerfeldt's clean voice on the last OSI album (or was it the one before that?).  Whether I like it or not, we'll see, although, even if I do, I won't be digging too heavily into their discography as I do not like death metal growls at all.  May pick up Damnation though if I like Heritage. 
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