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Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Oh yeah... maybe not strictly prog, but I find Roger Water's 'Pros and Cons' album to be pretty well unlistenable (i.e. awful).
 
 
Yeah, I agree. I love Floyd to termination but don't rate Pros and Cons at all. I remember buying it blind years ago expecting something awesome. Oh well, can't win 'em all.
 


I'm glad I'm not the only one - in the whole of the Floyd canon of group & solo albums, it's the only one I've totally disliked, but having said that I've never heard either of Nick's 'solo' efforts, nor 'Identity' by Rick Wright and Dave Harris.  Seeing that the latter has never had a CD release (to my knowledge), I'm not likely to be able to make a judgement on it.
 
I guess you've heard it, but in case you haven't, the second disc of Ummagumma features four solo offerings that are, er, um, very individual. As you'd expect Gilmour's is okay, but as for the rest... check out Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict and you'll get the general idea!
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How about Les Claypool's Fearless Flying Frog Brigade's horrid live version of Floyd's 'Animals'?? Terrible sound quality, extremely shaky playing... horrid, absolutely horrid. Paid bloody good money for that, too...

And...

Eeeer...




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el dingo, yes I'm very familiar with the studio sides of Ummagumma... Roger's section is probably the most satisfying to listen to, closely followed by Dave's and Rick's... Nick's opus on there is pretty much unlistenable, unless you like electronic drum solos that is.
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although I really enjoy my Prog Metal, I do have an 'Academy for the Overrated', containing bands which other people love, and I either just can't get into or frankly don't understand why....Confused
 
My longstanding list consists of:
 
Ayreon
Opeth
Savatage
King Diamond/ Mercyful Fate
Rhapsody (although the last one was reasonably restrained)
Coheed & Cambria
 
they have recently been joined by a new object of complete bewilderment to me:
 
The Mars Volta...Dead
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I certainly agree with you on King Diamond there, Jared. Although are they listed as prog? I hope not. Caught one of their videos on tv the other night and laughed myself to sleep.

The rest I don't really agree with you on, but we knew that . Although I do find Opeth, and The Mars Volta to be hideously overrated. Even if I like both bands.

But we all know that, secretly, 01011001 is your album of the year
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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


And...

Eeeer...






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STONEBEARD
 
Love the Obama graphic, where did you source it?
 
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Any album ever made by Rush...
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Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Any album ever made by Rush...

Do tell--don't fret, I'm no fanboy.
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Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

STONEBEARD
 
Love the Obama graphic, where did you source it?
 
(Apologies for this post having nothing to do with music!)

Right click on the image to get the location.  You'll find it under properites.


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 10 2008 at 16:42
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Hum. Let's see. Kayo Dot: Dowsing Anemone with Copper Tongue, Pain of Salvation: Scarsick, everything ever classified as Zeuhl... Ouch

And hey, I almost forgot, BLIND GUARDIAN.LOL
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.
Couldn't agree more - on all of those!  You really nailed it - good on ya!
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I can't think of anything I've heard that's really bad, I tend to reserve my 1 and 2 star reviews for releases that imo are badly done e.g.
Focus - Focus The Greatest Hits - cheapo package with no information on the origin of the tracks.
Be Bop Deluxe - Postcards from the Future - a band with too many similar compilations
Yes - Topography - not sure who this is aimed at. Another band with too many compilations.
ELP - Reworks. dodgy trance remixes of ELP tracks
 
Probably the biggest disappointment was the second Karfagen CD "The Space Between Us". I had high hopes for them but they then produced an album of new age lift music.
 
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

Any album ever made by Rush...

Do tell--don't fret, I'm no fanboy.



There's not much of an explanation, just that my ears categorize their music under the "Horrifically Bad" category.
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Based on the above response my answer is anything that Jake Kobrin's ears find to be "horrifically good".  Explanation is self-explanatory.
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Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO
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Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

Couldn't agree more - on all of those! You really nailed it - good on ya!


Not sure if he actually nailed it. The thread asks for "Horiffically Bad PROGRESSIVE albums", and as far as I know, Under Wraps, Big Generator and Love Beach are nothing more than average/mediocre pop albums.

If the question would have asked Horiffically Bad Albums by Prog bands, well then yeah I agree he nailed it.
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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

...Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

Couldn't agree more - on all of those! You really nailed it - good on ya!


Not sure if he actually nailed it. The thread asks for "Horiffically Bad PROGRESSIVE albums", and as far as I know, Under Wraps, Big Generator and Love Beach are nothing more than average/mediocre pop albums.

If the question would have asked Horiffically Bad Albums by Prog bands, well then yeah I agree he nailed it.
 
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Like Slartibartfast says, a lot of bad 'prog' albums are bad because they aren't really progressive, but instead resulted from legitimate artists losing their way over trends or money:  Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

As far as technically 'legitimate' prog - it's a little obscure, but the FInnish band Apollo's self-titled album is one of the worst pieces of toe jam I've ever heard.  And for some reason Warner actually felt the need to reissue it a few years back so an entire new generation could be turned off on prog music.   Read the reviews - there's  no point rehashing their insights here.

 
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

STONEBEARD
 
Love the Obama graphic, where did you source it?
 
(Apologies for this post having nothing to do with music!)

Right click on the image to get the location.  You'll find it under properites.
 
 
Thanks for that - Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Zeranna Zeranna wrote:

Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos

It is disgusting IMO
 
that's a really bright way for a n00b to win friends and influence people on this forum...Confused
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