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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 06:45
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

I just read the review on the Dutch progrock site Progwereld: the reviewer mentions the 'warm studio sound', the stunning instrumentals including the one with Alex playing very exciting acoustic instruments and for the rest Rush delivers solid rock songs with strong vocals, excellent musicianship, he compares Snakes & Arrows with Counterparts and explaines that the title has to do with yoga Wink and he complaines about the poor cover art Unhappy Well, I am still in heavy doubts, between Arcer " his recommendation ("Give Snakes and Arrows a listen. The production's lovely, there's some great tunes on there and they sound more relaxed and enjoying the process than they have since maybe Signals.") and Snow Dog his advise ( Avoid! ) ...
                                        
 
 
I probably agree with Arcers comments you quoted, but the album is basically a Rock album, in fitting with 90's Rush, albiet witha warmer sound and an earlier Rush "feel". The somg writing itself is Modern Rush.....of that I'm sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:01
Oh yes, I'd agree that this is not an album in the 'old Rush' mode if that's what you wanted to know, Erik. IMHO, the songwriting is better than in a long while and for me, it is the quality of the songs that counts rather than them doing an epic for the sake of having an epic on the album, but I would also agree that if you weren't really into Counterparts or Vapor Trails you may not like this one that much either, Erik. Give it a listen by all means though...Thumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:26
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Oh yes, I'd agree that this is not an album in the 'old Rush' mode if that's what you wanted to know, Erik. IMHO, the songwriting is better than in a long while and for me, it is the quality of the songs that counts rather than them doing an epic for the sake of having an epic on the album, but I would also agree that if you weren't really into Counterparts or Vapor Trails you may not like this one that much either, Erik. Give it a listen by all means though...Thumbs%20Up
 
My point exactly!Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 07:33
I'm actually quite pleased with them not trying to make an album like Hemispheres (which is my favorite Rush album) ... they're a different band today, in a different world. I'm quite sure that had they attempted to make such an album, most people who are now disappointed because they didn't would instead accuse them of not "progressing".

Was that a syntactically valid sentence?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2007 at 17:43
I actually think they did progress... by blending their old and new sounds together.  I think that's why it sounds like 'old' Rush to me, even though it definately has hard rock elements.  The more I hear this album, the more I'm liking it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2007 at 04:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 05:16
Erik, maybe these reviews here might help a bit?
 
 
Clean sweep of positive reviews.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 05:55
Thanks Salmacis, good to read these very specific reviews, one of the reviewers I know personally (Martien Koolen also works for Background magazine), it looks like a huge challenge to discover the presence of the unsurpassed Mellotron on the new Rush album Wink. Anyway, I have decided to buy the new Rush album because I have become so curious to it but I am aware that it is way from the Seventies and even Eighties sound.
Dear fellow Rush progheads, let's face one thing: you can have respect for Rush, you can name them great musicians, you can say that they are still progressing but that doesn't mean that the music on Arrows & Snakes is very interesting and it doesn't mean that Rush fans who prefer the 1973-1986 era (like me) are not allowed to conclude that the new Rush album sounds nothing more or less like good melodic
rock., it's too cheap to say that all those fans "are living in the past" or "should wake up" because there's nothing wrong with making music that is based upon The Seventies in the traditional way Clap
Tomorrow I will try to buy Snakes & Arrows (yesterday it was sold out in the 3 record shops I visited Unhappy ) and very soon I will add my view on the new Rush album, it's one of the mostly reviewed CD's at this moment, Rush is hot and perhaps Tony R30 is willing to give his view on the homepage, I am looking forward to it Wink !
 
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... or Rush is still alive and progging?
 
 
                                                                                                 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 12:38
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

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Tomorrow I will try to buy Snakes & Arrows (yesterday it was sold out in the 3 record shops I visited Unhappy ) and very soon I will add my view on the new Rush album, it's one of the mostly reviewed CD's at this moment, Rush is hot and perhaps Tony R30 is willing to give his view on the homepage, I am looking forward to it Wink!      


Good luck with the album and I hope you find, at a bare minimum, some fantastic music, Prog or not. As previously mentioned, keep a keen ear into Lifeson's "rebirth".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 14:23
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Tomorrow I will try to buy Snakes & Arrows (yesterday it was sold out in the 3 record shops I visited Unhappy ) and very soon I will add my view on the new Rush album, it's one of the mostly reviewed CD's at this moment, Rush is hot and perhaps Tony R30 is willing to give his view on the homepage, I am looking forward to it
 
Done. Not a great review by anyone's standards but honest.
 
I know I like the album having given it a chance (I wasnt over-impressed originally), there is more to life, and Prog, than swirling keyboards and if there is a finer musicians album released this year I'll eat my halo...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 15:19
^^Call that a review?LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 15:34
 
             Tony R30, are you an Atlantic Records salesman LOL ?!
 
But seriously, I have to congratulate you with the most descriptive review I have read about the new Rush album, you even seem to recognize the Mellotron sound Clap !
By the way, it is a bouzouki, not a bazouki, you are confusing bouzouki and bazouka Shocked, a Freudian slip for some hidden agression Evil%20Smile ...?
Anyway, tomorrow I will buy the new Rush album, I even have to after my promise to Tony R30 .... and in fact I am looking forward to give my opinion about Snakes & Arrows as a Rush die-hard since 1976 Approve .
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 15:42
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
             Tony R30, are you an Atlantic Records salesman LOL ?!
 
But seriously, I have to congratulate you with the most descriptive review I have read about the new Rush album, you even seem to recognize the Mellotron sound Clap !
By the way, it is a bouzouki, not a bazouki, you are confusing bouzouki and bazouka Shocked, a Freudian slip for some hidden agression Evil%20Smile ...?
Anyway, tomorrow I will buy the new Rush album, I even have to after my promise to Tony R30 .... and in fact I am looking forward to give my opinion about Snakes & Arrows as a Rush die-hard since 1976 Approve .
 
 
no it is a bazouki he plays, its a new  Prog instrument you've not heard of Eric - as powerful as a bazooka and as tasty as a cookie..Tongue
 
 
Just give the album lots of plays before deciding....it has layers...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 16:17
Good review Tony, definitely the best I've read alongside E-Dub's as in both there's no hidden agenda to slam the album out of prejudice or to overpraise it with the veneer of the fanboy. I think I've played the album enough to review it at some stage over the next week and I take it you've heard the album went in at Number 13 in the UK album charts? That really is a superb achievement.Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 16:23
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Good review Tony, definitely the best I've read alongside E-Dub's as in both there's no hidden agenda to slam the album out of prejudice or to overpraise it with the veneer of the fanboy. I think I've played the album enough to review it at some stage over the next week and I take it you've heard the album went in at Number 13 in the UK album charts? That really is a superb achievement.Clap
thanks mate...to be honest I knocked it out in a couple of minutes...maybe 10, I get bored if it takes any longer..
 
Yeah I noticed the #13 placing posted over on CP forum. I'm a bit disappointed..Nelly Furtado has been in the charts 40 weeks yet she is at #10 (I think, in any case she's higher than Rush) it doesnt make any sense.Using that logic she must have sold over 1 million albums (taking into account the first few weeks would see far higher sales of her album)....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2007 at 19:20
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

no it is a bazouki he plays, its a new  Prog instrument you've not heard of Eric - as powerful as a bazooka and as tasty as a cookie..Tongue
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2007 at 08:14
I have just bought Snakes & Arrow, for euro 14,99 at the Mediamarkt in The Hague, this evening I will have my first listening session, you will hear from me soon because I am very eager to review it after Tony R30 his euphoric words Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2007 at 08:31
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

I have just bought Snakes & Arrow, for euro 14,99 at the Mediamarkt in The Hague, this evening I will have my first listening session, you will hear from me soon because I am very eager to review it after Tony R30 his euphoric words Wink
 
Good luck!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2007 at 08:40
Thanks Snow Dog but there is one 'final ultimate decisive' element that convinced me to buy the new album and that is the presence of an instrument you can also hear in the song Tears Cry , many years ago:
                                             
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2007 at 08:43
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Thanks Snow Dog but there is one 'final ultimate decisive' element that convinced me to buy the new album and that is the presence of an instrument you can also hear in the song Tears Cry , many years ago:
                                             
 
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Thats Mellotron dedication!Approve
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