Prog Died in 1979?????

Hrychu wrote: SeanTrane wrote: I know fairly little about Brazil's music industry (outside a few stars in jazz), but in a nutshell, it seems to moi, that the best era is also the 60/70's. I have a friend who's Brazilian and I've heard them say the opposite! In the 60s/70s in Brazil the music making scene was much less advanced than in the digital age (compared to 1st world countries) due to the super limited availability of gear and decent musical instruments. During that time only a handful of artists in Brazil had the conditions to record songs let alone release them. The fact even now it's nearly impossible to find any vintage musical equipment on the used market in Brazil is a testament to that.

Edited by moshkito - June 14 2024 at 12:31

Hrychu wrote: SeanTrane wrote: I know fairly little about Brazil's music industry (outside a few stars in jazz), but in a nutshell, it seems to moi, that the best era is also the 60/70's. I have a friend who's Brazilian and I've heard them say the opposite! In the 60s/70s in Brazil the music making scene was much less advanced than in the digital age (compared to 1st world countries) due to the super limited availability of gear and decent musical instruments. During that time only a handful of artists in Brazil had the conditions to record songs let alone release them. The fact even now it's nearly impossible to find any vintage musical equipment on the used market in Brazil is a testament to that.

The Dark Elf wrote: I think it's safe to say the "classic era of progressive rock music" died by 1979. By that time, the greatest albums by the following bands had already been released: Yes Genesis Jethro Tull King Crimson Pink Floyd Gentle Giant Van der Graaf Generator Emerson, Lake & Palmer The Moody Blues Procol Harum Camel Premiata Forneria Marconi  Kansas Strawbs Hawkwind Caravan Gong Magma Soft Machine Renaissance Frank Zappa U.K. Area Colosseum Triumvirat Once could say the same for tangential bands in fusion and rock: The Who Led Zeppelin Return to Forever Weather Report Mahavishnu Orchestra Santana Fairport Convention Pentangle Miles Davis I could go on, but the point has been made. That, my friends, was the first generation of prog and the most influential. And based on the ratings on PA, still the most popular and highly rated. Argue amongst yourselves, if you wish.

DarksideofAbel wrote: Please mention any bands after 1979 that are different from the 70's prog bands.

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Hrychu wrote:   ... For a long time, I was under the impression that art of achieving that dead organic snappy muffled 70's drum sound died around the late 80's... until I found out that Fernando Perdomo actually does a great job at hearkening back to that magic sound recording vibe, in the modern recording era!

King Crimson776 wrote: There are plenty of good compositions within established styles that have yet to be written, and especially within Prog given that it allows for more expansive compositions.

King Crimson776 wrote: No music being made now is particularly innovative. The late 60's / early 70's were a unique time in music history. Of course nothing that came after can compare. ...

I've been collecting Prog albums since the early 70s and over the years of listening and attending concerts I had the realization that much of the content within Prog composition began to sound the same. I began to notice similarities to the first wave of Prog bands in the music of the second wave of Prog bands.

After learning many pieces on guitar, drums and keyboards it became too obvious. Don't get me wrong...the second wave of Prog bands were spectacular..its just that the obvious notion of imitating someone else was in my face.

It wasn't insulting to me that the guitarist in PFM was sometimes sounding like Steve Howe. It wasn't that extreme.

What concerned me in the mid to late 70s was how a lot of bands were following a concept revolving around producing a style that had been done before and a mere handful of artists were turning out music that was new, creative, and innovative. For example...Robert Wyatt Rock Bottom didn't rely on extensive creations of others. I'm sure Robert Wyatt had influences, but there's no need to go there because Rock Bottom as an album was separate from other Prog.

Jade Warrior were progressing further as a duo creating a different sound...just as Popol Vuh did. Both bands expanded further with their usage of vocals..choirs...wind instruments..exotic instruments and no one in particular was on a mission to sound like Gentle Giant. Jade Warrior had similarities to a Jethro Tull style in their early years..which they departed from that for many years to invent a new style that ended up being influential to many artists.

In the late 70s Roger Glover released the album ELEMENTS which featured choir type singing, dark electronics, and Jazz Rock instrumental coming across like PASSPORT..but with Simon Phillips on drums. This particular album contained composition that was very original and unique for its time.

Eventually the popular idea was to force music. To make it contrived or to outright copy someone else . Definitely not adding their style to your own vocabulary but outright copying...or cheating the music. If most music had been inspired then the music would have been honest. The art form itself follows many different paths. Your diversity reveals itself from one album to the next. Then you end up releasing a lot of creative music...but if you force the music which means it is uninspired...then it's a phony situation. Some people will like it anyway...but there's always the possibility of your music not being sincere or from the heart. You have to wait until the music inspires you. That's how a great album is made...however a lot of artists were under pressure to do the opposite.

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