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The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.

I can stand Octopus' Garden, but one of Paul's numerous granny songs? No thanks, can't even stomach listening to it. 
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Another that always annoyed me was Clap on the Yes lp...not a 'bad song' just didn't fit imho.
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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!

Interesting take!
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I blushingly admit I quite enjoy Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Never been a fan of Octopus's Garden anyway.
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Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

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Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
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At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.
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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

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Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
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At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.

I can actually completely understand how many not only don't like Knots, but don't care for GG in general.

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Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Originally posted by Umeda Umeda wrote:

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Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
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At last, someone has the balls to call out Knots. I have always hated it ever since i first heard it back in the '70s. I always skip it when listening to the other magnificent tracks from Octopus. It just grates and gives me the sh***s. Sorry, but it's one of those tracks that I cannot stomach.



Knots is definitely a love it or hate it track, no way around it.
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I can't stand 'Violin' on Kate Bush's otherwise lovely Never For Ever.
Grates on me too….. The BBC Christmas 1979 Special suffered by its inclusion. Everything else was wonderful
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Going for the One - Parallels

Really? Cry

Rick’s church organ intro, Chris’s wonderful melodic bass and Steve’s soaring guitar…. Shocked
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Going for the One - Parallels

Really? Cry

Rick’s church organ intro, Chris’s wonderful melodic bass and Steve’s soaring guitar…. Shocked

one of my favorite Yes songs LOL
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One of albums coming up to my mind is "Pet Sounds" by The Beach Boys, featuring "Sloop John B" that should never be fit for this albumscape. Unhappy
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

... But maybe, just maybe ending their concept album "Dimension Hatröss" with a cover of "The Batman Theme" wasn't Voivod's best ever idea...

I agree. However, that was strictly a CD bonus track, so I have a hard time really counting it. Plus, its not stuck right in the middle of the album.

As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Its very rare that I don't accept every piece as part of the whole. But there are a couple.

PFM - Is My Face on Straight (L'Isola di Niente). I find the lyrical theme sophomoric and the musical theme disjointed. What's worse is Peter Sinfield gets so much credit for his contribution to PFM. 

Iron Maiden - Quest for Fire (Piece of Mind). Maiden usually gets praise for being well-read and researching their lyrical themes. But a song about the "quest for fire" when "dinosaurs walked the earth"? Bad, just bad. The music is not up to Maiden's standard either.

   


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As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Clap  Thanks for that!!  I always loved W&W, but that song made me cringe!  However, I think it was the opening shot of the long slide to AM-Friendly Genesis.  
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:



As far as Genesis goes... I keep seeing More Fool Me mentioned. Its not great, but its not that bad. And its bloody Heart of the Sunrise compared to the abominable You're own Special Way that sinks the otherwise fantastic Wind and Wuthering.

Clap  Thanks for that!!  I always loved W&W, but that song made me cringe!  However, I think it was the opening shot of the long slide to AM-Friendly Genesis.  

While I don't hate "Your Own Special Way" (it sort of fits in with the album's "haunted pastoral" theme), I've so often wished that "Inside and Out" (from the Spot the Pigeon ep) was in its place on the album!
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Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 
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Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

I love Marillion's The Party, what's wrong with it? Confused
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

I love Marillion's The Party, what's wrong with it? Confused


Nothing. I wonder do people bother with the lyrics?
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Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

Holidays in Eden -  The Party
Hot Space  -  Body Language
Sheer Heart Attack -  Killer Queen
Clutching at Straws - Going Under 

Body Language, yeah it's not great.

Killer Queen though???
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