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both Pussycat and Atlantis songs are from the 70s.
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I figured they were, but it still brings back the memories of the sound even if I never heard them before. Thank you for sharing some obscure gold.
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I'm happy you enjoyed them.
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Thanks a lot, this comment is quite something! I was pretty sure you'd love the Broadcast one psychedelic lady, not so sure about the others. The Noise Made By People album of Broadcast from which this is is in my top 50 of all time, phantastic album. Broadcast singer Trish Keenan unfortunately died in 2011 from pneumonia, aged 42. Mike also loves this - thanks! I'm pretty much settled on nominating Broadcast. Björk was meant as out of competition anyway, and Rainbirds are a band that I like a lot, but as an in the first place emotional song Two Faces is not quite where You Can Fall is. Edited by Lewian - May 28 2021 at 15:10 |
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Now, this seems to be a kind of a tricky poll theme: what's emotional for one is not necessarily emotional for the other. And many choose (fall back on?) very well known and/or classic artists... As such not a problem of course, but I'd prefer to explore some, to me, new/unknown artists. Anyway, my thoughts regarding the suggestions on page 1:
jamesbaldwin: Tiziana Ghiglioni brings us a modest kind of easy listening jazz. Beautiful singing, but somehow it doesn't touch me at all. Two songs by Ginevra di Marco: I know Ederlezi indeed from Kusturica's film, a very beautiful song, very "balkan-y", but unfortunately she tears sometimes to yelling instead of singing. On Vedrai vedrai she finds the perfect balance for her voice, imo - I like her singing her much much better. And it is a beautiful song, bare-bone piano-voice! I very much like Tori Amos, in general, she's a great singer/songwriter with a wonderful voice, and she displays it here. The song is maybe a bit too conventional to really convince, though. The Anders: Idioter by Katinka (thanks for the lyrics!). Very much a complaint. Her singing, and the rather spare playing, convey the sadness and the restraint anger in a very well executed way - you feel this is going the wrong way, but it stops before something fatal happens, leaving the listener worried! Wonderful song and the command/mastery of keeping this tension in an eerie balance is quite impressive. Great choice! chopper: Kate Bush, of course, is one of the best. I love almost everything she has done, from the more poppier to the more experimental things. She has to be in this poll, but she's too well known for me to be a contender. Susanne Sundfør's song is beautiful too. Love her singing on this one, but on some little moments she's overdoing it. Great song (but the ending on this "edit" is a bit awkward). I prophesy disaster: Helium Horse Fly with Adrift starts off with an electric guitar painting the uneasy we are diving into. The singing that joins adds to this feeling. Then a post-rocky "explosion" and we've laid down the formula of the song. I love this interplay between instruments (and voice), but somehow the song lacks the emotion it may want to convey - it is more creating an ambience... And maybe a bit too predictable in its structure. MortSahlFan: Curved Air bring us a solid 70s rock song, very nicely played and sung (and I love the violin!), but it is not something that attracts much of my attention or that I find emotional. Illusion, with Madonna Blue, give me a similar impression. Nice vocal harmonies here, and great piano playing. Very nice to the ears, great build-up of the song, but nothing that really touches me or makes it stand out. Pleasant to hear, though and I prefer this one over Curved Air. Logan: Catherine Ribeiro wants to love someone... Now this is a strange case for suitkees: I love this song, but not the singing, which from the start fatigues me. Does it sound too forced, too over-(something)? Not sure how and why... Edda Dell'Orso with Morricone grabs me much more, but it is much too short! We want more! Jane Jarboe with Swans displays her singing abilities in this piano voice dominated piece. It's nice, but somehow keeps me out of it... Nico with her typical fragility in her voice and the eerie music is always fascinating - and often discomforting - but maybe too well known to be a contender for me. Great choice though for this theme. Raff: Regarding Kate Bush, see my remarks above - Pull Out the Pin is indeed another example of the great Kate, although I think she has done some more emotionally charged songs than this one. With Joni Mitchell we have another Great of the Greats. I really love this song, it's wonderful, but she too has done some songs that move me more than this one. Alexanderplatz sounds very dated, but Milva brings it in a perfect way. Maybe too perfect? It lacks something to really convince me or touch me... Of these three, my choice would be Joni. Hiram: Lau Nau with Juokse sinä humma, this is a great discovery: I really love this song. The folk roots are clear, but that guitar makes the horse sound very panicked before the song moves to an uncomfortable comfortable end. Wonderful. This would also be my choice because PJ Harvey and Sonic Youth are too well known to me, but these are great songs too. Easy Money: Now, what a great choice to bring in Billie Holiday! This really is a heart-wrenching song. Not sure I've heard it before. This one will be difficult to beat, if I would go for the known artists. Gentle and Giant: I hesitated to put up something by Sinéad O'Connor, but I considered her much too well known. This is just a brilliant song, brilliantly sung, by a brilliant artist. Progishness: Now this is a selection of great classic artists! But somehow Annie Haslam's voice has never really connected with me. Neither does this song (despite Dvorak!). Regarding Curved Air I have the same remarks as re. their song above. She has a great voice, but the song does not really move me. With Janis Joplin and Doris Day we have two other very great singers with two too well known songs to be a contender here for me, but they definitely have their place in this poll (yes, that's not fair...). JD: Another Great of the Greats: Edith Piaf. This song is just a reference for all of the world, I guess. What can we say more...? moshkito: Sandy Denny with Fairport Convention, is another classic! Great song, wonderful playing, great singer. This has everything to be perfect... and it is. |
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Dear Nickie: Offa Rex: very beautiful the sound of that electric harpsichord, and the angelic voice of the interpreter, vaguely Renaissance atmosphere, very pleasant. The October Project: Pop song with a good rhythm supported by the singer's gritty voice. There is a little lack of arrangement to exalt me Love Will Find You is a very dilated melodic pop song, with a central bridge and a very emphatic power-pop arrangement. Even this song in concert would see the darkness illuminated by many lighters that move left and right. My favorite is Offa Rex's Queen of Hearts, however Love Will Find You is very good and enthralling. |
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Mirakaze: Floating Room with Dog; her voice sounds very familiar to me, in a way, but I cannot put a name on it. Nice song, a dog and his master... Not sure though if it really touches me (is it because I prefer cats over dogs?). I actually prefer Lush's dreamy Monochrome, both the singing and the music, and although it is not breaking boundaries in the songwriting department this is closer to my heart (I listened twice in a row to it; yes I like it). Snicolette: (Oh yes, Heather Nova would have fit in here too!) Never heard of Offa Rex and their Queen of Hearts might steal mine. Wonderful! Beautiful voice and a great instrumentation (and playing), where the harpsichord fits in perfectly. October Project sounds a bit more "standard fare" regarding the songwriting, but sounds good too. Great vocals indeed, and somehow this has a slight Irish flavour over it. With Chasing The Monsoon we enter in a more typical prog realm, but (yes, I say "but") it sounds very good. Great vocals again, and I like that theremin-like synth use. Great song too, but less surprising... My preference goes out to Offa Rex. TCat: Dying Bed by Charming Hostess is a very good up-tempo song (unexpectedly, with such a title). Musically it is great, and the vocals bring a country flavour to it, but are not entirely to my liking (is there one line sung by another voice?). Laws of Physics is again very intriguing, musically speaking, and here we have interesting harmonies between the different vocals. The emotion is in the fun and the irony. Wonderful choice - the emotion goes up, for once! Not much fan of Anathema, in general, but this is a nice piano-voice ballad. Maybe a bit too cliché-matic to really touch me though... I have a couple of albums by Archive, but not this one and I never heard this song. Another, not very original (imo), ballad: great voice, and good musical accompaniment, but they've done better and more emotional songs, I think. Lewian: Broadcast's You Can Fall starts in a very cold electronic way but then the other instruments, and especially the singing and the organ, bring in their organic warmth. Yes, this one has something chilly. I like it very much - I have to explore more Broadcast - but maybe it is not so much "emotional"? Rainbirds (the band name doesn't ring a bell with me...) also bring actually a fantastic song - maybe one of the best of this poll so far - but again, is this "emotional"? Not sure, but I really like this very much. Hearing this, it is no surprise that you like Kate Bush and Björk... Regarding the latter, I very much appreciate the artist, and musically she always has a lot to offer, but I'm not always happy about her singing which goes too often into the yelling department to my liking. This song is an example of that, where here singing fatigues me too much to be high on my listings. mathman: Bent Knee with Being Human don't interest me, musically speaking (they somehow seem to privilege technicality over emotion...), and her yelling really puts me off, so this one is really not for me. I remember Angelica Garcia from the other poll and she was a very good surprise there. And I was more impressed by that one than by this song, but this one is still very good - I have the feeling though she's less mastering her voice here... Despite the fact that it's Disney (or because of?) Bonnie Raitt and Was (Not Was) take this one away: not that original, but it works. Cristi: Pussycat! Ha, Dutch glory! They're part of the soundtrack of my youth; they scored hit upon hit in our country. Nice, but very poppy. Doro, sorry, but this is imo just a very bad cover of such a great and emotional song when it was done by Procol Harum. This one is too cringy to my fragile ears. Dida Dragan on the other hand is wow! A typical late 70s, 80s pop orchestration (production sounds more mid 80s), not very original, but in service of this wonderful voice, full of emotion indeed. Great discovery! Atlantis bring a rather conventional pop-rock tune, but very well done. It can't top Dida Dragan, however. |
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hehe, Pussycat has several songs I love and that vocalist is superb. Dida Dragan's song is from 1984. It's a song from her poppiest album. Still love 3-4 songs from that album. I'm happy you enjoyed the song.
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In a sort of perverse way, I am glad to see somebody who doesn't worship Bent Knee. A couple or three years ago, everyone here in the US was all over them, and you could not even begin to say that they left you cold. Mind you, the first time I saw them live at Orion Studios I was very impressed, but the second time, at ProgDay, they bored me to tears. They are all very talented, and - from what I know - also a bunch of nice people, but I believe there are better bands around as a whole. I've seen quite a few bands with female singers, and enjoyed them more. Anyway, I have been thinking of nominating Joni Mitchell, but yesterday, when I was listening to the playlist on YouTube Music, a song came up (tacked at the very end of the list) that I hadn't heard in years, but that I used to love back in the day. I realized the song still moves me a lot, and I'd like to post it here before I make my pick. Apologies to everyone for this late addition! The song is "Is It a Crime" by Sade: |
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^^ Yes, I definitely do; she's quite impressive on this one !
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Wonderful to see so many enjoying Offa Rex! Now, if they would only put another together...and tour once things start opening up again. With the Decembrists involved, I would likely get lucky and they would play Portland, too.
Thank you for the thoughts, Lorenzo and Kees. Raff, also thank you for the support re Bent Knee, it is very hard to have to keep admitting that I don't quite get it with them, with so many over the moon. Also glad I'm not the only one. And I love Sade, too.
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page 3 and beyond...
dwill123: Oh, you're a sentimental guy... Maybe I am too... Another bunch of great, and very well known singers! Gladys Knight's Bond song is beautiful, but I wouldn't qualify it as the most emotional of the three. I very much like Anita Baker, but Roberta Flack's song is in my opinion the most outstanding, thanks also the the restraint of it, both musically as in her singing. Wonderful! Tigerfeet: Three artists of who I don't remember having heard anything before, and all three are great to hear! Anneli Drecker with a Tim Buckley: Wonderful playing and singing, but it in some way it just doesn't capture me enough. Maura O'Connell has a great voice too, but this song is maybe a bit too conventional pop-rock (with a bluesy touch) to get me, so it is Angel Snow's (do I know her?) Coals and Water that steals the show here. Beautiful acoustic arrangement and both the songwriting and her singing are very convincing and melancholic; great voice! Ronstein: Steven Wilson with Nina Tayeb. I really love her voice and singing, but somehow I have a problem with Steven Wilson's music; it all sounds so predictable, unimaginative that for me it becomes a chain of clichés... and unfortunately, this one is not an exception. Perfectly performed, but devoid of emotion, for me. Sandy Denny on the other hand is really a great one! Maybe even stronger than the Fairport one put up earlier... Very touching. Regarding Kate Bush, see my earlier remarks. Can't do anything wrong, but here it is not necessarily the emotion that prevails. Cara Dillon, I think, is a discovery to me. Great voice indeed, on both songs. The first one has a very Irish flavour and is very captivating. Much more than the unsurprising pop-rock on the Mike Oldfield track, which lacks the emotional charge of the former one. (I also like Sailor Boy by Cara Dillon that chopper put up!) Raff: Milva's Jenny dei Pirati is maybe not intended as a submission of an "emotional" song for this poll, but I like it's theatricality! Sade is a wonderful choice for a late submission... I actually do not really remember this one, but I loved her known hits of that period. What a fantastic voice and what a great song. This is probably my preferred one of your suggestions. |
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And, many thanks for the comments, Nickie, Mike, Lorenzo... Maybe still ongoing, but it is always nice to read the impressions of others on the songs suggested here!
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Of your three songs, Voilà is my favorite. The musical accompaniment is minimal, the voice does everything, the song is pure melody (as indeed your first song), we are in the field of classic melodic pop, nothing shocking at a musical level, but that's very good, because it is the voice that conveys emotions more than anything else. Here in this one, it seems more genuine to me than in your first choice, where there is more musical accompaniment (but it is very commercial sounding accompaniment). The second song, taken from classical music, is very interesting, but I tend not to rate the higher category songs. --- Thanks for you review on my selection, I like to read very clear opinions, even critical ones. |
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1) The delicate and acoustic start is very good, the rest is pleasant but it doesn't excite me. 2) Doro: O mamma mia..... 3) The voice is remarkable, a very emphatic and captivating song, it is my favorite. 4) Slowly growing but very pleasant melodic song is my second favorite.
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Broadcast: very fascinating (industrial?) music, especially the opening piece and the arrival of the vocals, great atmosphere, great sound. It lacks of development to be a masterpiece. It still flies at high levels. Rainbirds: For a commercial success, it's a very good composition, with great variations. Very pleasant. Bjork is one of the few orgasmic singers (only Tori Amos beats her), here she performs with a real orchestra, which usually doesn't excite me, but since her voice is the leader, and she does it in a way his, I would say excellent song, my favorite. Edited by jamesbaldwin - May 31 2021 at 03:11 |
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First listens up to this point, starting with Page Three. Includes some additions from Raff and Chopper.
Thank you to George for the playlist! Raff: Sade “Is It A Crime” Big horns open, then it drops out and becomes
just organ, and that fabulous voice of hers.
Soooooo coooooool. Light
percussion and bass, this is classy as all heck. Nice piano, bass and percussion break about
the middle, that turns into a sax solo. I
don’t believe I’ve heard this, despite her popularity. Chopper: Cara Dillon “Sailor Boy” Piano begins the piece, which I also am familiar with (see Ronstein), this is also a fabulous rendition with a male singing with her as well. More sort of droning music joins in, with fiddles and possibly concertina (?). This is just stellar. Will be seeking that recording. dwill123:
All of these artists are well known, which will take them off of my
voting list, but they are excellent entrants for the topic. Roberta Flack “The First Time Ever I Saw Your
Face” This one was a smash hit in it’s
time, a different take on Ewan MacColl’s beautiful love song from 1957. Bert Jansch also covered this, a bit more
uptempo than either the MacColl or the Flack versions. It is a classic and Roberta did it justice,
making it her own. Anita Baker “Sweet
Love” Another powerhouse vocalist, Anita,
in the R&B field. This song is a
typical (which doesn’t mean bad at all) pop/R&B song, with clean production
that is meant to let her gorgeous voice shine.
And it does. Gladys Knight
“Licence To Kill” Another pop/R&B
queen of the charts, Gladys holds nothing back on this title soundtrack song,
written by Narada Michael Walden, another powerful voice in this field, but for
writing hits, not singing. Strong pop
vocals and production here as well, but my personal fave is Roberta Flack’s
masterful (or is that mistressful?) cover.
tigerfeet: Anneli Drecker “Morning Glory” I remember this song well for Tim’s version, will look forward to hearing how it’s covered here, as I’ve quite enjoyed your previous post selections. Solo piano and some very back in the mix vocalisations. The woman’s voice is very sweet and delicate, which suits this poignant and moving song. The entire production is very delicate, with soft touches everywhere, even when the singer doubles and choruses the vocals. There is an almost nonexistent orchestral backing from time to time. Beautifully done, simple and rich. Although I do know the song, I don’t know this cover, so will consider for voting. Maura O’Connell “First You Cry” I know of Maura, but am not familiar with this one, either. This is a bluesy/countryish sort of song with a rich-voiced and soulful vocalist. She actually lived (may not anymore) in Nashville, when I did, you can hear that Nashville sound here…. The production and musical/choral support reminds me much of when Ray Charles did a country album, many, many years ago. She’s got great range and shows it here as the song slowly builds. Angel Snow “Coals and Water” Love the spare beginning of finger-picked guitar here. This is a dark sort of spooky song, in a folk vein. I could certainly envision this in a coffee house or folk bar setting. Simple and effective. Ronstein: I notice you chose mostly live versions. Ninet Tayeb & Steven Wilson “Routine” This one I do know, and like the piece a lot. How he managed to capture what it feels like to suddenly and unexpectedly find oneself widowed (in this case, she lost a child, or children, too, if I remember the inspiration correctly) and how you struggle to get through each day for a very, very long time, is beyond me. This is the live version, which I find the most evocative. Ninet is a fabulous vocalist. And genius to shoot it in an empty venue. Sandy Denny & Friends “Who Knows Where the Time Goes” Another favourite female vocalist, you can’t go wrong with anything by Sandy. This is one of her most known pieces, and with good reason. Kate Bush “Feel It” Well known and fantastic female vocalist, here in a great setting to display her particular genius, theatrical and with a wide vocal range, here singing like a bird. Cara Dillon “The Lark in the Clear Air” Will love to hear this, as I don’t know her and I play this song every time I play the harp, as one of my warmup pieces. 😊 Sweet, sweet Irish singer, doing this gorgeous Irish tune, accompanied by piano and very delicate orchestration. I will be looking up her solo albums, thank you! Have no idea how I missed her. Followed by another by her, this time with Mike Oldfield, another personal favourite composer. This is a more rock/pop setting for her, she’s obviously versatile as well and capable. I do love Oldfield’s guitar sound and his lead is fantastic, taking this beyond normal rock/pop. My fave, however, was her cover of “Lark,” not just for familiarity of the tune, but because it’s a genre I obviously love and she crushed it. Edited by Snicolette - May 30 2021 at 11:50 |
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Seen the overwhelmingly positive feedback for my late addition to the list, I'm happy to nominate Sade's "Is It a Crime" as my pick for this poll.
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