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Nightfly
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 16:22 |
I like it - it's really growing on me getting better with every play.
So what do you think, a one off like Damnation or a new direction? I tend to think the former.
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King of Loss
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 21:08 |
I really enjoy this album. It might one of my favorite Opeth albums :O
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thrak76
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Posted: September 21 2011 at 21:16 |
Tony R wrote:
Listening to the 5.1 mix now.
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First post here. Was inspired by the thread. Long time listener of Prog though... I really dig the 5.1 mix. I do feel it's their finest 5.1 mix yet; Ghost Reveries being my least favorite mix. You'd think that Prog bands would gravitate towards multichannel releases, but they are few and far between. You can really connect with the music in a different way than just a stereo mix presents. I wish that many more bands would release multichannel mixes. Opeth are one of the few that have been doing it for awhile now. Also, I'm a fan of the album as well. I'm not versed with Opeth's entire catalog, as i really just started listening to them when Ghost Reveries dropped. Been a fan ever since. One of the high points for me is "I Feel the Dark". There are some great dynamics with that song, and really on the whole album.
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 14:04 |
^ I still tend to prefer a stereo mix thoug it has to be said that it's mainly because my 5.1 system in terms of quality and speaker placing (due to space) can't compete with my hi-fi.
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Tony R
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 14:11 |
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thrak76
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 16:04 |
Nightfly wrote:
^ I still tend to prefer a stereo mix thoug it has to be said that it's mainly because my 5.1 system in terms of quality and speaker placing (due to space) can't compete with my hi-fi. |
Yeah, an improperly (or compromised) setup surround system can actually be a distracting, in comparison to a stereo mix.
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The T
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Posted: September 22 2011 at 18:21 |
Ok. I have listened to 4 tracks already. I'm slightly bored. Less so than with the last POS album but a little. But this one is better. It might grow a little.
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Zombywoof
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 17:46 |
I'm currently listening to the vinyl and ripping it to a CD, so as not to wear it out. I love the album to death, personally, and more so with every listen. I am not a metalhead, so perhaps Opeth have found a new audience with this one? Got to give them credit for doing what they want to do.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:43 |
I got the vinyl today. Like I guessed, the production sounds SO MUCH more appropriate on vinyl. It actually sounds absolutely great. I highly recommend to hear it as such.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:51 |
I love it. I hear new nuances in the music with each listen. This is the most mature, deep, progressive, risky, and adventurous music they've ever done. I respect them for having the balls to leave their comfort zone and put out an album like this, not caring a jot what their metal fanbase thinks.
I think their move further and further towards the progressive has been for the better. I hope they continue to further explore this direction. After this, it would sound like a devolution, not an evolution, if they go back to metal.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Zombywoof
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Posted: September 23 2011 at 18:52 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
I got the vinyl today. Like I guessed, the production sounds SO MUCH more appropriate on vinyl. It actually sounds absolutely great. I highly recommend to hear it as such. |
I haven't heard the CD. In what ways is the vinyl superior?
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 01:38 |
I finally listened to it in its entirety. I love it. First Opeth album that I won't have to skip songs. I hear a lot more rhythmic complexity than previous albums. Certainly nothing I could accuse of being "uninspired" about it other than they were not inspired to layer it with death metal. C'est la vie.
And I will second whoever made the album of the year nomination...so far at least.
Edited by Tapfret - September 24 2011 at 01:39
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sleeper
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 06:24 |
^I've noticed that, Mendez really seems to shine on this album.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 07:23 |
I would not deny that the bass work and drum work are really good. But from the standpoint of overall composition the album is not that engaging, and many of the transitions sound really forced.
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The T
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 08:05 |
The best parts are when there is only piano, effects and voice. When the whole band kicks in it loses quality, simple as that. The most adventurous and best working harmonies and chords and melodies occur when the keyboard is set to sound like a pianoforte and Akerfeldt sings usuing his not-great but serviceable (and rather tonally strange) clean voice. There are a few really good moments like that. The whole retro thing might be just no for me. And yes, the transitions are usually awkward and forced.
Anyway, it's a much better non-metal album by a formerly-metal Swedish band than Pain of Salvation's RS1.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 12:44 |
Zombywoof wrote:
Jake Kobrin wrote:
I got the vinyl today. Like I guessed, the production sounds SO MUCH more appropriate on vinyl. It actually sounds absolutely great. I highly recommend to hear it as such. |
I haven't heard the CD. In what ways is the vinyl superior? |
It sounds deeper, sharper, and with greater clarity. I prefer the sound of vinyl in general, though that's sometimes not the case with modern albums. This one sounds better than digital/cd, though.
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JJLehto
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 12:50 |
Live, "Heritage" is even better. It was heavier and the drums were powerful, it gave it that extra oomph the album just doesn't have.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 24 2011 at 15:34 |
Are they playing the whole album live? I guess that doesn't surprise me.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 06:09 |
JJLehto wrote:
Live, "Heritage" is even better. It was heavier and the drums were powerful, it gave it that extra oomph the album just doesn't have.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Opeth in December, booked my tickets already. I expect to see a lot of Heritage, which is a great thing, because the new album is very good IMO.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 25 2011 at 12:20 |
This is their setlist (spoiler blocked)
The Devil's Orchard I Feel the Dark Face Of Melinda Porcelain Heart Nepenthe The Throat Of Winter Patterns In the Ivy 2 Slither A Fair Judgment Hex Omega Folklore.
It's pretty weak in my opinion. It'll be cool to hear Patterns in the Ivy II finally and A Fair Judgement should rule. f**king Throat of Winter. :X Porcelain Heart. UGH. And they have so many more amazing mellow songs that aren't here. I've been wanting to hear them play To Bid You Farewell for years. Also Harvest, Windowpane, Closure (thought they've played it every time I've seen them,) Isolation Years, etc, etc. IY especially would really fit in given how proggy it is.
Oh well. Katatonia should hopefully still rule.
Just highlight the above.
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