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boo boo 
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 Posted: May 23 2010 at 11:03 |
Oh c'mon, everyone knew Hammill was gonna get more votes, I certainly did.
Hammill is very good but one thing that he and Jon have in common (how in the heck did this comparison come to be anyway?) is that they are certainly not for all tastes, Hammill's approach is very similar to Roger Waters but while he's technically a better singer I prefer Waters, because when Waters' voice snarls and aches it comes off as much more sincere (like he really DOES have problems) and with Hammill it's more theatrical and show-bizzy. Nothing wrong with that, but I certainly understand why it turns people off.
As for what Anderson III said, Hammill's "ugly" vocals is a bit part of his appeal to me, a lot of great singers don't have "pretty" voices, though Hammill's voice can be either really pretty or really "ugly" and he often goes back and forth between his soft and loud voice in a lot of songs and that makes him really exciting and unpredictable, so he's the closest thing to a prog Jim Morrison in that respect. He has more of an edge to him than other prog vocalists that makes him a bit more rock n roll so it's no wonder VDGG are one of the few prog bands to actually have influence on punk rock.
Mainly I think a great singer can either have a lot of power (Hammill) or a very unique and interesting voice (Anderson) but he doesn't have to have both.
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Zombywoof
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 11:15 |
 boo boo wrote:
(how in the heck did this comparison come to be anyway? |
It comes from a debate that a friend and I had. I probably should've mentioned that in the initial post.
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 14:44 |
Jon's voice is like an angel singing heavenly (Yes) music! 
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Anderson III
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 22:55 |
boo boo wrote:
As for what Anderson III said, Hammill's "ugly" vocals is a bit part of his appeal to me, a lot of great singers don't have "pretty" voices, though Hammill's voice can be either really pretty or really "ugly" and he often goes back and forth between his soft and loud voice in a lot of songs and that makes him really exciting and unpredictable, so he's the closest thing to a prog Jim Morrison in that respect. He has more of an edge to him than other prog vocalists that makes him a bit more rock n roll so it's no wonder VDGG are one of the few prog bands to actually have influence on punk rock.
Mainly I think a great singer can either have a lot of power (Hammill) or a very unique and interesting voice (Anderson) but he doesn't have to have both. |
I agree a singer doesn't have to have a beautiful voice. For instance I listen to a lot of extreme metal, and the singers can sound really harsh. I think Jon Anderson has much more power than Hammill, though.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 22:56 |
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Hammill by a distance larger than 157 parsecs.
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Posted: May 23 2010 at 23:50 |
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At the time of my posting, it appears Hammill has the edge - but in truth Jon Anderson is the only one who was really ever Close to the Edge - so my vote goes to Anderson.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 00:01 |
boo boo wrote:
Oh c'mon, everyone knew Hammill was gonna get more votes, I certainly did.
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Aren't you the one that said this site is Symphonic biased on another thread? 
Jon plays in one of the most popular Symphnic bands, Peter Hammill plays in a respected but weird Eclectic band.
Due to the large number of Yes fans, I honestly believed Jo would win.And by far.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 00:03 |
...yeah but Jon's an alto 
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:28 |
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We have had a poll like this before. I voted for Jon Anderson back then because I underestimated the vocal abilities of Peter Hammill (on the other hand, Jon Anderson is no match for Peter Hammill when it comes to lyrics). Now I vote for both.
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MFP
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 07:47 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Hammill by a distance larger than 157 parsecs. |
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Drifter
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 08:44 |
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For the longest time I considered Anderson's singing my least favorite part of Yes but I've warmed up to him over the years. That said, it's still Peter by a comfortable distance for me. His vocals are like an extra instrument. He just slaps you across the face and commands your attention. I get goose-bumps when I hear him sing.
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bucka001
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 15:42 |
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I think Jon Anderson has much more power than Hammill, though.
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You have a picture of Fripp for your avatar. Can you even begin to imagine Jon Anderson singing "Disengage"? It's the best tune on Exposure; in fact, Hammill's singing is the most powerful thing about that album (which is a great disc, by the way). Fripp is one of Hammill's biggest fans and loves his singing, and I agree with him on that opinion.
Jon Anderson is okay (I've got all the old Yes albums and used to love them) but as far as lyrics and vocal versatility go, there's no comparison. It's Hammill (for me, anyway).
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Zombywoof
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 15:49 |
someone_else wrote:
We have had a poll like this before. |
I searched through history and couldn't find one. Oh well, it's hard to be original!
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Zombywoof
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 15:50 |
someone_else wrote:
We have had a poll like this before. |
I did a search beforehand and I couldn't find anything. Oh well, it's hard to be original!
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Drifter
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Posted: May 24 2010 at 15:55 |
bucka001 wrote:
You have a picture of Fripp for your avatar. Can you even begin to imagine Jon Anderson singing "Disengage"? It's the best tune on Exposure; in fact, Hammill's singing is the most powerful thing about that album (which is a great disc, by the way). Fripp is one of Hammill's biggest fans and loves his singing, and I agree with him on that opinion. |
Nice to see Exposure get a mention. I need to give it a listen soon because it's been awhile. A very underrated album. Only someone like Fripp could pull off having Hammill and Daryl Hall sing on the same album and make it work.
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digdug
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 10:25 |
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Anderson has an amazing voice, whilst for me, Hammil sounds incredibly melodramatic in an really forced and unenjoyable way 90% of the time. |
Just what I was going to say except worded better...!
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 12:38 |
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 One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D
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Anderson III
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 13:39 |
bucka001 wrote:
Anderson III wrote:
I think Jon Anderson has much more power than Hammill, though.
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You have a picture of Fripp for your avatar. Can you even begin to imagine Jon Anderson singing "Disengage"? It's the best tune on Exposure; in fact, Hammill's singing is the most powerful thing about that album (which is a great disc, by the way). Fripp is one of Hammill's biggest fans and loves his singing, and I agree with him on that opinion.
Jon Anderson is okay (I've got all the old Yes albums and used to love them) but as far as lyrics and vocal versatility go, there's no comparison. It's Hammill (for me, anyway). |
Wouldn't be the only time I disagree with Bob!  Hammill surely has more varied ways of singing, but it doesn't automaticly mean he's the better singer. I'd much rather have one really nice style of singing, than five unpleasant ones. Also I'd like to mention I think Anderson's timbre doesn't limit his emotional range as everyone else seems to think...
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Kojak
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 14:54 |
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Posted: May 27 2010 at 15:48 |
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Hammil, For me the weakest part of of Yes was Anderson
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