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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 23:35
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

O you're just trying to be difficult Smile

Not really. All personal preference and opinion, really. I much rather would take The Tain or The Crane Wife over Cautionary Tales of the Brave or The Dark Third.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 23:47
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Coming out of my "exile" to tell you Tony that you did a very good work on presenting this list.

On aonther note, I am sorry to see that Deluge Grander, Zaar, Nemo and NeBeLNeST are not higher (they are in the list, only after the first 10), but then again, it's just a list (but I'll keep my criticism for another time, to not ruin people's time).




Those albums came around a little later, and were not heard by very many people. I think Deluge Grander did finish 12th overall. We got them added, and hopefully more members will check out this fantastic album.
    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 09:51
yus!

yay for kayo dot. they deserve the top spot more than anything here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 11:12
mmm...yeah, I guess it´s a good listConfused I dont know, I havent listen to the Kayo Dot album except for the one track in this site, but I did listen to their previews work...ok, if you think it should be number one, thats ok. But the rest of the choices let me a bit down, I thought The Mars Volta would made it in the top 5 again, and 10,000 days, although a good album, is no masterpiece and I couln´t disagree more when Tony sayd this album let nobody down, I remember reading how 10,000 days let so many downConfused. The Tangent in number 10...yes, why not, I didnt think they would make it, but I guess number 10 is the best position. Yet, Im pretty disapointed Beyond Twlight´s album wasnt there, for me the work of the year. Frost doesn´t deliver anything new, so why are they so high in the top 10, or even in the top 10 anyways?

It´s a shame, I really liked last years list...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 11:58
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Frost doesn´t deliver anything new, so why are they so high in the top 10, or even in the top 10 anyways?

 
I agree with that but this group for some reason are very popular especially by older prog fans (not me). I have seen this across the all the boards and the biggest moan was when the leader decided not to take this live and broke the group up.
 
 I was surprised at their popularity but it was the same with Kino the year before. Confused
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 15:56
Oh my god, what a results ... ? And this "super" winner...    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:48
A couple albums of the year that seem unpopular but loved by me are "The Acoustic Verses" by Green Carnation and "For the Love of Art and the Making" by Beyond Twilight. There has to be people besides me here that has heard the new Green Carnation!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:51
^^ I voted for it as 3rd or 4th in my list.


Kayo Dot was my number 1 pick, in case anyone couldn't tell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 16:58

Well based on the recommendation, I'm going to buy Kayo Dot, so it's all your fault if I don't like it......WinkLOL.....I don't know all of the rest but from that list I thought Tool's album was a little overrated, I thought TMV would have come No 1 (I do think its their best venture yet), and after raving over their EP, I found the PRR album to be a bit of a disappointment.

And as John McLaughlin's now on PA, I must mention "Industrial Zen" as a high point of the year. And from the BOF brigade, Rick Wakeman made a decent stab at recreating glories past with his aptly titled "Retro".

Roll on 2007!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 17:30
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

and 10,000 days, although a good album, is no masterpiece and I couln´t disagree more when Tony sayd this album let nobody down..


Matias, I actually wrote: "This follows on some five years after the triumph that was “Lateralus” and judging by the vote they didn’t let anyone down"

With the album coming in at #5 on our poll and being #1 on the Billboard Album Chart, I suggest that more than enough were happy with it.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 17:32
I demand a re-count Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 18:13
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

and 10,000 days, although a good album, is no masterpiece and I couln´t disagree more when Tony sayd this album let nobody down..


Matias, I actually wrote: "This follows on some five years after the triumph that was “Lateralus” and judging by the vote they didn’t let anyone down"

With the album coming in at #5 on our poll and being #1 on the Billboard Album Chart, I suggest that more than enough were happy with it.Wink



I find it boring and tiresome and one of the worst releases of the year. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 18:39
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

and 10,000 days, although a good album, is no masterpiece and I couln´t disagree more when Tony sayd this album let nobody down..


Matias, I actually wrote: "This follows on some five years after the triumph that was “Lateralus” and judging by the vote they didn’t let anyone down"

With the album coming in at #5 on our poll and being #1 on the Billboard Album Chart, I suggest that more than enough were happy with it.Wink

Well, the fact that it was number one in the Billboard charts rarely says anything about quality, even less about prog!
I know what you are trying to get across, that the album had an huge success and many where pleased as a whole. But I´m talking about this site, and I remember there where a lot of people really not happy with it. Opethguitarist just said it. I liked it, but it´s deffenitly not Top 5 album of the year material...at least for me.

How did Beyond Twilight´s end in the list? Cause there is one extremly good album which I feel should at least be in the top 10

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 19:06
1. Wolverine - Still (and I think I'm the only one who voted for it at all!!!)
2. Beyond Twilight - For the Love of Art and the Making
3. Egyptian Kings - Almagest
4. Frost* - Milliontown
5. Strangefish - Fortune Telling

Neo got the shaft by the collabs!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 20:16
Good list but not perfect. 'Paradox Hotel' should be in there & 'Wild Orchids' was probably the most overhyped CD from 2006 & didn't meet a lot of peoples expectations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2007 at 21:33
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Prog Metal is not for me, I'm afraid.

fuxi and memowakeman, Kayo Dot isn't really prog metal. You should listen to the samples. I think they should be in avant-prog, but what do I know?

I'm very happy to see Kayo Dot as number one. With all the reviews, I was afraid TMV would come in first (I'm sorry, I just really don't like what I've heard from it even though I like most of FTM). I can't say much about the other ones, but Kayo Dot deserves it.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 00:54
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Neo got the shaft by the collabs!!!

This year we have Marillion, IQ, and possibly Fish, it'll be a good year for Neo in terms of this list hopefully.Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 08:06
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I find it boring and tiresome and one of the worst releases of the year.


exactly my thoughts ... about Amputechture!!!
     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 14:16
I thought Tool's 10,000 Days was fantastic.  It took a little while to get into it, then it got a lot better, especially the second half of the album.  I'm glad it finished 5th.

I agree that Green Carnation's "The Acoustic Verses" was underrated.  I just got it for Christmas, and I love it.  It's very pleasant to listen to. 

And I just finished listening to the new Kayo Dot album for the first time, and I have to say... I don't get it.  I'll listen to it some more, but I don't know if it'll work for me. 

  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2007 at 14:41
Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Prog Metal is not for me, I'm afraid.

fuxi and memowakeman, Kayo Dot isn't really prog metal. You should listen to the samples. I think they should be in avant-prog, but what do I know?

I'm very happy to see Kayo Dot as number one. With all the reviews, I was afraid TMV would come in first (I'm sorry, I just really don't like what I've heard from it even though I like most of FTM). I can't say much about the other ones, but Kayo Dot deserves it.
    


I've wondered, as well, whether Kayo Dot should be listed under RIO/ Avant Prog.  They are a metal oriented Avant Prog band.  I like them a lot, and I am not usually attracted to metal bands -- it's the avant Prog boy in me, and my jazzy leanings, that likes them.  Estradasphere is another metal/ avant Prog band I like (listed at this site under Rio/ Avant Prog).  Of course there are a number who mix up metal with jazz etc. Ideally, this site would have multiple tags for bands to describe the music better (Kayo Dot, for instance, could be listed under more than one Prog subgenre -- several in fact.).

Much as I like symph prog, I tend to prefer metal influenced bands that are more in the Avant Prog Metal vein than those more in the Symhonic Prog Metal vein (or those bands which prominently mix Neo-Prog aesthetics with metal).

Anyway... I'm pleased to see Kayo Dot in the top ten (though I prefer their debut -- this one is more daring and more avant garde, I suppose.   It's too free-sounding for me -- isn't as tight as I would like).  However, from what I've heard, I like Zaar's album the most.  For a time my favourite was Kotebel's Omphalos, but it palled a bit as I feel the compositional structure seems a bit forced (I know the tricks and there's not quite enough variation for me -- especially considering the earlier albums).  And I'd like more of a spontaneous feel to it.  Nemo's is good too, but much of the vocals don't appeal much to me.

The PFM album is very good, but I still much prefer Storia, Per un Amico, and L'isola (loved the vocals in those too).  It's a "safe" album -- not groundbreaking in the progressive picture, I feel.  It's  a very good effort from a classic band (which happens to be one of my favourite classic Prog bands), but wouldn't make my top five list because for me it's still not the band's best work (my opinion might change over time).

I didn't care for Amputechture, or what I heard of the Frost* album, but I respect that they're highly regarded albums by many.  As for the pure Reason Revolution album... pretty good from what I've heard (even though it sounded more Prog-Related to me), but I don't know the band well enough.

I'd say it's a shame that Zaar didn't get more votes, but it's just a popularity poll amongst a select group of PA members of which most of us don't belong.  It's largely a matter of taste, but I know that I haven't heard enough 2006 alums to have an informed opinion.  I believe my would-be favourites are albums I haven't heard at all.

I do think the "contest" would work better if there was an initial shortlist, and then everyone who is eligible had to hear all of those before making a case for their votes (stream the albums for them if one could get permission from the bands, or labels, to do so).   It would be interesting if the thread where this was discussed could be copied/ pasted into here (publicly) since I'm more interested to hear why someone voted for an album over another (sure it's taste, but criteria are at play too) than to know just what was voted for).  But then that will get discussed here too, so whatever.  No need.  Were there official criteria that collabs/ reviewers were expected to follow when making their choices (beyond it must be Prog that they like)?  If this has been mentioned already, I apologise.

I expect there was some fiece battling between PA staff trying to convince others that their choices were better/ more adventurous/ more progressive/ showed more technical and compositional skill....




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