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Hiram View Drop Down
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What if the music is great, but the person behind it is an a$$hole or has political/religious/whatever opinions that are opposite yours? 
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Originally posted by Hiram Hiram wrote:

What if the music is great, but the person behind it is an a$$hole or has political/religious/whatever opinions that are opposite yours? 

Whether it possible or apt to seperate the artist from what he creates is an age old issue.

Can we appreciate Wagner in the knowlege that he was a raging anti-semite? Can we read Lewis Carroll with the shadow of peadophilia hanging over him? Can we enjoy a Tom Cruise movie in light of his support for Scientology? Should we support hair metal despite its raging sexism and mysogyny? Should we dismiss Black Sabbath for their supposed advocacy of satanism? And what about the {Dixie} Chicks?

In part I think it depends on how much the artist advocates their beliefs in their work and how much the person appreciating that work is willing to tolerate.


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Exactly. 

What interests me is where people draw the line and if that line is in different place depending on the artist. Is it easier to tolerate something unpleasant if the music (or whatever the artform) is really great to you. 
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Having beliefs is one thing , practicing and acting on them is another. The Tom Cruise example is hilarious to be honest but interesting that no one has mentioned Michael Jackson , probably one the most innovative artists in popular music.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Having beliefs is one thing , practicing and acting on them is another. The Tom Cruise example is hilarious to be honest but interesting that no one has mentioned Michael Jackson , probably one the most innovative artists in popular music.

Hi,

Fun fact ... one of the concerts for Earth Wind and Fire had a 90%+ number of black folks. The following week, Michael was in town, and his show? 50/50 on both colors. 

So when we consider innovative, we should also consider something else that is not thought to be important, but in this case it was! 
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